Mystery WW2 Crash..what is it ?

Hi, Researching my relative [5/ 7/1941 SGT SANDERSON G C P]
who was killed whilst on a Night time exercise Night of 4th July – Very early hours 02.45 hrs of 5th July 1941 Crashed only a few miles from 10 O.T.U. R.A.F. Abingdon [Info on www.rafabingdon10otu.co.uk], Plane was a Whitley Mk v Bomber Z6667 From 10 O.T.U. Abingdon, Official reports say it broke up in flight and crashed but I Was always told it was shot down and through investigations and accounts from a Canadian whom new a crewmember on that flight states it was a German “Sneak raider” [Intruder?].

Hi, Would this info/Photo have anything to do with my Relatives Whitley ? I Cant seem to open the Attachment so have no knowledge of the info on this topic, What interests me is My relatives Whitley lost the tail section as it crashed [Hit tree and broke off] Many thanks for your time, Ian Allison

Was sent it by a chap who`s investigating the crash site of W7528 and was supplied this picture , he was told it was that Stirling Elliot..don`t know why,but knew it wasn`t a Stirling.

Martin – what made the owner of the photo think it was W7528? Is there a date on the back?

The item sitting on the Merlin looks like one of the fuse panels.

Mystery WW2 Crash

Oh dear – its not just that I’ve gone deaf, the eyesights gone too. What it is to get old! And I keep hoping I’ll be alright in the morning.

I got it wrong , whitley it is then, i was 90% sure it was whitley , but looking at the U/C door , it didnt look simaller to the ones i saw on the net, must be the way its laying after the crash. 😮

Hi Annek – the tail unit has been ripped off – if you look closely you can see the stringers poking out at the back.

Mystery WW2 Crash

:rolleyes:Here’s my four penneth for what its worth.The Whitley had a fixed tail wheel I believe. There isn’t any sign of it here. Or any sign of where it was ripped off? The tail was also attached to the underside of the fuselage. I can’t see any damage in that area to show it has been torn away.

Kev, I thought it was worth a shot, not having any background to the photo or the crash there was an outside chance it might be there? Anyway at least nobody else will have to waste any time hunting there. In theory 🙂

Blue 2

I think that’s because it only covers operational losses? Therefore OTU losses are only shown if lost on operations.

I’ve had a quick look through several of the losses listed on the site Pagen linked to in Chorley’s OTU volume. Although I haven’t checked them all I haven’t found one with Squadron Codes, just the serial so I suspect they were not recorded in Chorley’s primary sources.

Regards,

kev35

Yes – I agree looks Whitley. Any more info on this Hindenberg?

…And I’ve just been looking on Lost Bombers, but I can’t find a 10 OTU loss that marries up on there either….

It’s the same site, I searched using Whitley, 10 OTU, Abingdon, ZG-T in various orders but this was really the only relevant site that appeared. Shame because it’s a damn good site, just really needs the individual a/c codes adding if possible.

Not being tetchy at all, just asking in what I thought was the quickest manner possible if the site you referred to in your post was the same one that I posted a link to in post number 5.

Yes Mr. Tetchy, it is. You wearing your itchiest woollen underpants today or something?:diablo:
Was just saying that’s all I could find too, after a quick search of Goolies and a couple of other search engines. Sure a bit more in-depth digging would reveal more.

Isn’t that what I posted in #5?

Indeed there does seem to be a dividing line after your wizardry Al, makes it clearer.
Found a site which covers 10 OTU crashes, unfortunately it only lists serials not individual codes of aircraft involved…

It looks like there is a fuel tank strap hanging down, which coincidentally runs at the same angle as my ‘Z’, but if you play around with the image, I’d say they are definitely two separate things…

Not sure about the ‘Z’-on zoom it looks to be part of the wing wreckage hanging down…

Whitley

The roundal is a clue to size of airframe, later in the war and OTU status.

The door in front of ‘T’

I would go with Al.

I would say Whitley, and if Al is right, there are plenty to choose from http://images.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://www.rafabingdon10otu.co.uk/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/File0021.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.rafabingdon10otu.co.uk/id2.html&usg=__cocw8NHZASz11NBmkCAX_nL_bCg=&h=796&w=1263&sz=361&hl=en&start=17&um=1&itbs=1&tbnid=PXPRkOXwqMCg0M:&tbnh=95&tbnw=150&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dwhitley%2Bbomber%2B10%2Botu%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DG%26rlz%3D1T4ACAW_enGB337GB337%26tbs%3Disch:1