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Help Needed: Our tug

Hi Guys

Im looking for more information about the tug we have, Its a “Tugmaster” tug? but thats about as much as I can see.

We’re looking to repair the rust and sort her out so she looks a bit tidier and suitable, so does anyone know if these tugs were ever used by the Raf?

Does anyone have an example of a paintscheme for this tug?

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q185/benash04a/IMAG0435-1.jpg

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q185/benash04a/IMAG0432.jpg

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q185/benash04a/IMAG0433.jpg

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q185/benash04a/IMAG0434.jpg

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Ben

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By: pagen01 - 8th April 2010 at 12:08

‘Fraid I don’t have a pic, but it was behind the storage area. I must stress that all my info is from memory – and it ain’t great!
Might be returning for the next Cobham open day though.

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By: Nashio966 - 8th April 2010 at 10:22

I dont think the front end of the tug is original mate, the more i look at it the more im beginning to think it has been added on later or as a repair?

When you compare the article i linked from flight global and the above picture of the tug at FAAM the only difference between the two, is the lack of headlights on the FAAM one.

I think a trip to FAAM is in order. I want our tug to look as original as possible! 🙂

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By: bazv - 8th April 2010 at 10:18

Hi Ben and James
Yes there might be local variations anyway,but it sure doesnt look like a Douglas Grille on Bens tug !!
Have you got a FAAM piccy salted away somewhere of the other Tug at Yeo James ??
When I were a lad…I used to do a lot of Canberra towing with Turbo Taskmasters,they were quite nice little tractors !!

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By: Nashio966 - 8th April 2010 at 08:20

Looks like a shortened version of a DC7/7Q ilk tug.
It is similar to a type of FAA tug as others have said.
The Grille doesnt look quite right – but similar to the tractor/tug at Yeovilton as Pagen said…
link to pic

http://www.birminghamuk.com/album/displayimage.php?album=13&pos=173

thats got to be it, the rear end is exactly the same! looking at that and other photographs ive found show the grill and the flat piece its mounted to, to be wrong. this would also explain the large amount of rust on the front piece and lack of rust anywhere else on the truck???

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By: pagen01 - 8th April 2010 at 08:18

That wasn’t the example I was thinking of Baz, but it certainly looks like it is based on that.

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By: bazv - 8th April 2010 at 04:32

Looks like a shortened version of a DC7/7Q ilk tug.
It is similar to a type of FAA tug as others have said.
The Grille doesnt look quite right – but similar to the tractor/tug at Yeovilton as Pagen said…
link to pic

http://www.birminghamuk.com/album/displayimage.php?album=13&pos=173

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By: pagen01 - 7th April 2010 at 21:32

Ben, the Navy did indeed use another small tug other than the type pictured, and it did look similar to what you have – but have no sources to check against at mo. Possibly from the smaller, earlier jets period, pre Vixen, Scimitar etc. Cab looks like a post service mod.
Again from my awful memory, I think there might be one at FAAM.

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By: F.U.B.A.R.ed - 7th April 2010 at 21:22

HMS Eagle did serve for just over 25 years did it not?. I’m sure the types of tugs aboard her would have changed from time to time. Sorry can’t be of more help. I’ve added a link I found.

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http://www.maritimequest.com/warship_directory/great_britain/pages/aircraft_carriers/hms_eagle_r05.htm (2nd picture up off the bottom. one tug that looks similar to yours maybe?)

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By: FiltonFlyer - 7th April 2010 at 20:09

Forgot to mention, the XM496 tug is painted up in authentic period RAF colours!

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By: Nashio966 - 7th April 2010 at 20:01

Cheers matey, even if it isnt Ex Raf we would like to find the correct paint scheme in which to paint her up, we were thinking about having her painted the same sea grey that WR963 is but I think Authentic all the way 🙂

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By: FiltonFlyer - 7th April 2010 at 19:57

You could try the Britannia XM496 chaps at Kemble; they had a Douglas Sentinel tug at some point, although it was a bit bigger. It was the same as the ones used by RAF Transport Command. They might have info on the use of tugs in the RAF in general. Their website is http://www.xm496.com – contact details are on there.

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By: Rlangham - 7th April 2010 at 19:30

And some were mini-tugs!

http://www.flickr.com/photos/roblangham/3498716808/

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By: Chitts - 7th April 2010 at 18:57

Seems that the ones on eagle had all wheel steering?

That said the chap from douglas seemed fairly sure that it was a tug from eagle? I cant see the RN using two different tugs

I can, some Navy tugs had paddle wheels!!!

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By: Nashio966 - 7th April 2010 at 18:30

Seems that the ones on eagle had all wheel steering?

That said the chap from douglas seemed fairly sure that it was a tug from eagle? I cant see the RN using two different tugs

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By: Fouga23 - 7th April 2010 at 18:29

indeed seems to be another type
http://www.afwing.com/intro/harrier/legend/harrier%20gr1%20hms%20eagle.jpg

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By: Nashio966 - 7th April 2010 at 18:20

Hmmm that doesnt look like our tug at all 🙁 I was really hoping we had a HMS eagle tug there 🙁

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By: hunterxf382 - 7th April 2010 at 18:13

Have a look at this site:

HMS Eagle the link will take you to the photos page, and one taken during the Suez Crisis (LINK) shows several of the tugs on deck….

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By: Nashio966 - 7th April 2010 at 17:32

right had some info back from douglas equipment

The chap i spoke to thinks it might be a Douglas NS6 that was built for HMS Eagle around 1964!

Anyone got any pics? we’re going to paint her up in navy colours if it turns out that it is indeed from Hms Eagle 😀

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this is the only photograph I have managed to find of the tractor in service, though this one with a civillian company!

http://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/view/1962/1962%20-%200532.html

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By: Nashio966 - 7th April 2010 at 16:08

not entirely sure where it came from? Could very well be the same tug?

I rang Douglas equipment and forwarded them a couple of photographs of the old girl, their parts chap is looking into it to see if he can find out what it is! 🙂

NF – Ill have a peer now 🙂

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By: Bograt - 7th April 2010 at 16:03

MBA2? Didn’t come from Marshalls by any chance did it? If so, I remember that old beast very well!

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