If you like piston engined fighters…

I don’t think there are many left and the chances of getting one running even less. From what I’ve heard they are technically a very difficult engine to work on as they had so many idiosyncrasies.

Are there many Sabres left? And is there any chance of getting one ground running (at least?)

To the best of my knowledge the late improvements to the Sabre still didn’t fully sort it and that it was plagued with problems of of one sort or another throughout its service life. Please don’t hesitate to correct me if I’m wrong, that is how we learn.

That clip is a snippet off the ‘Tempest at war’ DVD if you like the Tempest which I do the full DVD is a must. It makes you realise that the reticence to put one in the air is only the lack of confidence on the late improvements and developments of this engine.

Graham

I think that would be something to do with the demand being greater than the supply.

Excellent video. Next time I see one go by, I’ll surely recognise it.

And I’ll be sure to let you know!

Bill Waterton, of Gloster fame, pranged one on his first flight due to an obscure fuel system defect. He reckoned you could keep a 12 cylinder Merlin going by pumping the primer, but not the 24 cylinders in a Sabre.

I totally agree

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I have never known such a small a/c to make so much noise!

No, not agricultural. Most high performance piston engines sound very lumpy at tick over. I’m hearing a thoroughbred here. That lumpy tick over and the subsequent change of note as the revs rise is all part of the “song” of a particular engine.

Am I alone in finding the sound of the different engines and engine/airframe combinations fascinating and highly evocative?

Put a Sptfire and a Hurricane and a P51 in the air together and you can tell which is which without looking. Then there is the difference between say a Merlin and a DB605 and an Allison. I do love the sound of a Spitfire doing a run and break, with that pop pop pop as the engine is throttled back.

I shouldn’t mention jets in a piston thread, but who could forget the howl of a Starfighter in the circuit, or the whistle of a Vampire, among other things.

Perhaps it’s time for a “What ‘plane” thread based on sound tracks!

Rod

No you are not alone, I’m fascinated by that too. I still say the Sabre sounds agricultural at tickover as does the Daimler Benz and the Griffon yet the Merlin sounds reasonably happy. In the case of the Sabre I guess the extra 12 cylinders may have something to do with it.
The Vampire was a noisy little beast and I find it strange that some airshow commentators did/do try to talk over the sound of them.

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Phwoar! I liked that. Not often you see a Tempest in action.

Would be great if we finally got to see a Tempest get air beneath its wings…

too right, theres no other warbird I want to see fly more than a Tempest, other than a Short Stirling.

any news on the UK tempest population?

No, not agricultural. Most high performance piston engines sound very lumpy at tick over. I’m hearing a thoroughbred here. That lumpy tick over and the subsequent change of note as the revs rise is all part of the “song” of a particular engine.

Am I alone in finding the sound of the different engines and engine/airframe combinations fascinating and highly evocative?

Put a Sptfire and a Hurricane and a P51 in the air together and you can tell which is which without looking. Then there is the difference between say a Merlin and a DB605 and an Allison. I do love the sound of a Spitfire doing a run and break, with that pop pop pop as the engine is throttled back.

I shouldn’t mention jets in a piston thread, but who could forget the howl of a Starfighter in the circuit, or the whistle of a Vampire, among other things.

Perhaps it’s time for a “What ‘plane” thread based on sound tracks!

Rod

I can’t help thinking they sound distinctly agricultural when idling.

Great footage but it’s difficult finding a clean sound recording of a Sabre engine starting, taxying, idling or at full power…

I don’t know your definition of “clean sound recording” but there’s one at the Hawker Tempest Page: tempest.wav

I have three more downloaded from the web but I have no time right now to find them again. Maybe later if you like the first one.

Great footage but it’s difficult finding a clean sound recording of a Sabre engine starting, taxying, idling or at full power…

Phwoar! I liked that. Not often you see a Tempest in action.

Would be great if we finally got to see a Tempest get air beneath its wings…

That is one strange sounding engine. Wouldn’t that turn heads at an airshow if you could hear it before you could see it? How about sneeking in below the tree line and then hopping up for a low pass at Biggin?

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Oh please may we see a display like that at legends, one day? We can only dream!

now to find typhoon footage…

This is a Tempest V…..not an Fw190…..please don’t shoot it down! :rolleyes:

Love the sound of that engine! :diablo:

Bit more meandering round YiuTube and I found this…note the interloper Tempest at about 2mins 5 seconds!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PgTJZ_cWaT0

Or better still, Tempest II, of course. Follow some of the links and there is a Tempest II, plus a Tempest V starting sequence. Nice ones:)