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Ownership aviation artefacts

Hi all,

While the Halifax cockpit is taking shape rapidly I am thinking about the problems that can occur regarding ownership/disputes etc.

How can one prove that a certain aviation artefact is in fact one’s property. Or to put it simple, can others dispute ownership of something that has been made from scratch?

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By: CeBro - 12th March 2010 at 13:30

Bit difficult that one.

For instance, I am 43 now and hope to have a long and happy life. Suppose I make it to 100 years that’s 57 years from now. What would the current state of the aviation musea then be and more imporantly are the people of that era still interested in old aeroplanes or will the F16 be the new Spitfire/Mustang?
What would have happened to the wrecks that were so carefully preserved a long time ago (Short 184, Halifax,Betty etc.), scrapped, fully restored. :rolleyes:?????
Interesting subject, mind boggling but interesting.

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By: Blue_2 - 12th March 2010 at 08:00

Well said Peter. An attitude that is starting to prevail in the classic car world now too 🙂

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By: Peter - 12th March 2010 at 04:07

Despite any rules etc etc I always consider ANYONE be it private collector, museum etc as caretakers not owners and provision should be made for the preservation of items long after the owner(s) are no longer with us.

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By: Rocketeer - 11th March 2010 at 23:58

Thanks for the input chaps,

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Spitfire BL370 comes to mind, wasn’t there a dispute about the ownership.

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By: gwrco - 11th March 2010 at 23:36

…..you can always paint your name on the back of the items too, thereby making sure the object is definately yours – just a thought!

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By: CeBro - 10th March 2010 at 15:43

Thanks for the input chaps,

No, that’s not the case but better be safe than sorry.

I wonder what’s the case with recovered aircraft that are being restored,
and where a lot of money is involved.

Spitfire BL370 comes to mind, wasn’t there a dispute about the ownership.

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By: Creaking Door - 10th March 2010 at 15:08

…can others dispute ownership of something that has been made from scratch?

Yes.

Possibly the best way to protect yourself is to keep detailed records of how your Halifax cockpit came into existence.

Take dated photographs of every stage of construction, keep a detailed record of the hours of work that you put in, keep a detailed list of materials used and who paid for them (with receipts), record any genuine parts that are incorporated into the build together with their cost (with receipts) and who owns them and keep records of any work that was done by other parties at what cost and who paid (with receipts).

If the cockpit is not stored on your property you may wish to get something in writing that states that it is stored rent free (or not) and something that guarantees you access to it.

I don’t know how many people have been involved with this project but obviously the above will be easier if it is just yourself.

I hope this doesn’t mean there is some dispute developing!

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By: Fouga23 - 10th March 2010 at 14:50

Always make sure you have it in writing that it belongs to you. signed by both parties!

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By: drainjet - 10th March 2010 at 13:02

Depends who has made it from scratch I guess Cees, if you have made an item and have donated it on the understanding you have the right to it in future then it’s clear that it’s yours.

Always a tricky this, maybe it’s best to get something in writing to confirm ownership and even then disputes can still occur, they always do in the Avaition world!

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