February 23, 2010 at 11:00 am
I’d appreciate advice as to the aircraft type in the attachment; the photo was taken at Buc (Verseilles) in 1946.
Unfortunately it’s proved impossible to obtain more detail – the aircraft was in the distance of a general view of the airfield and there is not a great deal of contrast. I’m unable to make out any identifying marking but it appears to be twin-engined.
TIA
Brian
By: galdri - 31st March 2025 at 10:37
It is a Miles M.65 Gemini.
By: pagen01 - 31st March 2025 at 10:37
Quick, but I may be wrong, we will await the cavalry!
By: Lyffe - 31st March 2025 at 10:37
That was quick Pagen – much appreciated.
Brian
By: pagen01 - 31st March 2025 at 10:37
Looks like a Miles Gemini to me, but as for which one…
By: John Aeroclub - 31st March 2025 at 10:36
It is as others have said a Gemini and possibly the prototype GUS, as this toured Europe extensively in the very early years after the war. GUS can be identified by having large square rear windows rather than the teardrop shapes of the production examples if this can be ascertained on the original photo.
John
By: Lyffe - 31st March 2025 at 10:36
As the photo was taken in 1946, and the trees in the distance are in full leaf I’d suggest the summer – but I appreciatec that’s a bit vague. I’ve had two letters from the lady who sent the photo (one of three), but it’s difficult to tie down approximate dates from them. I’ll try and find out more this evening.
Brian
By: pagen01 - 31st March 2025 at 10:36
Considering that the prototype (G-AGUS) made its first flight in late ’45, I wonder if it could be it in the picture?
Do you have a more precise date Lyffe?
By: John Aeroclub - 31st March 2025 at 10:36
GUS’s U/c was later retractable.
JOhn
By: pagen01 - 31st March 2025 at 10:36
I was trying to figure the rear windows out, and the fact that ‘GUS had fixed undercarriage should help, but the pic is too washed out. It did have light lettering against a light background at one stage though.
By: John Aeroclub - 31st March 2025 at 10:36
Another thing which qualifies GUS is it had outline lettering so making it indistinct at a distance. The second prototype had dark lettering.
John
By: pagen01 - 31st March 2025 at 10:35
very good, I think the colour was possibly cream with red dashes, John will know better though.
By: Lyffe - 31st March 2025 at 10:35
Gentlemen,
The photo does indeed show the prototype Gemini – it had been sent to Buc to be viewed by, and demonstrated to, the French in the hope of making sales. The photo was taken in either September or October 1946, shortly after my lady was posted to the airfield. She recalls to colour scheme as being ‘reddish’.
It is just possible there is also a close-up photo, but that needs digging out. The only other small point of interest is that the photo was taken using a Box Brownie camera.
Brian
By: Lyffe - 31st March 2025 at 10:35
That’s what I like – real servitude Resmorah. It would be interesting to know if the museum has anything about this visit – if not I’m sure the photographer would be only to happy to add to the collection.
Brian
By: Resmoroh - 31st March 2025 at 10:35
Miles Aircraft
Lyffe,
Don’t forget that the Museum of Berks Aviation is still at Woodley. They have a vast amount of Miles information. I can spit from where I live to Woodley. If I can be of any help in this matter, Oh Gracious Leader, then your wish is my command!!!!
(Gerroff!)
HTH
Resmoroh
By: John Aeroclub - 31st March 2025 at 10:33
Cream and Red were favoured colours by Miles Aircraft, GUS I’m sure was overall Cream.
Here is the relevant page from Harboros Miles a/c. Showing two styles of reg.
John
By: John Aeroclub - 31st March 2025 at 10:32
Perhaps to conclude, here is a lovely photo from my collection. The copyright is Chas E. Brown and I have added this to the photo.
John
