By: maverik61 - 24th May 2009 at 04:42
No need to quibble about it, a deliberate shot down!:) Was concentrating on the civil aspect of war casualties……..:D
Hello. thank you both’
both items were of very great use.yes civi shot down.
or accidental same thing..
there was accidental shoot downs in irish seas isle of mann to scotland.
over 20 so. some were RAF some were unknown types.proctors maybe.
but if so what trigger happy guys they must have had.
weird site i found and not made up…
please help me more if anybody can .
cheers terry;);)
By: D1566 - 23rd May 2009 at 21:35
No problem, I thought that the original query was regarding ‘friendly fire’ incidents.
By: Newforest - 23rd May 2009 at 19:00
Wasn’t that more of a deliberate shoot down?
No need to quibble about it, a deliberate shot down!:) Was concentrating on the civil aspect of war casualties……..:D
By: D1566 - 23rd May 2009 at 17:48
G-ACPY, Dh.84 Dragon was shot down 3/6/41 in the Atlantic.:)
http://www.planecrashinfo.com/1941/1941-9.htm
Wasn’t that more of a deliberate shoot down?
By: maverik61 - 23rd May 2009 at 17:27
G-ACPY, Dh.84 Dragon was shot down 3/6/41 in the Atlantic.:)
cheers for info’ but there his loads more.
these were lost from Isle of mann to scotland.around that points.
I know american named stuart? p40 speke to prestwick missing .
terry
By: Newforest - 23rd May 2009 at 17:21
G-ACPY, Dh.84 Dragon was shot down 3/6/41 in the Atlantic.:)
By: maverik61 - 23rd May 2009 at 16:47
Are you interested in a particular sector or the sea or the whole of the Irish Sea?
There were a lot of aircraft recorded as having ditched or gone missing in the area though the Station Operations Record Book for Valley did not record any accidental shoot downs.
They often reported an unidentified aircraft which were intercepted by the resident Hurricane / Spitfire / Beaufighter (depending on which squadron was present) and reported as a friendly. These tended to be Whitleys and Wellingtons from OTUs.
The only confirmed case I have is this one from the No.312 Squadron Operations Record Book, at the time they were based at Speke.
October 13th 1940, “1800 A most regrettable incident has occurred, a Blenheim fighter being shot down into the sea in flames in mistake for an E/A. The pilots concerned were S/Ldr Ambrus, F/Lt Comerford and Sgt Stehlik. An unfortunate chain of circumstances led the three pilots to believe that two machines they had sighted while on patrol over Point of Aire were E/A. S/Ldr Ambrus opened fire on one of them and was followed by F/Lt Comerford who fired a short burst. Sgt Stehlik also fired a short burst at a distance of about 1100 yards, but states that he was sighting and testing his guns. The attacked machine fired two red lights, the recognition signal of the day, but too late, as at the same time it burst into flames and crashed into the sea. It is feared that its three occupants were all killed.”
Hello.
cheers well yes I did have on my Favs” but virus removed it a catalogs of get this at least 4 CIVI aircraft shot down and same types in 1 month 1941 lost.and again in 42 43 and same types again.the aircraft names were not your usually well know types.
from MuLL of scotland joining irish seas..isle of Man. Aeras.
one was a lost missing p40 american flown.he went missing 1942 ish.
ferrying.speke to prestwick.
thats all as i know.
terry
By: Alan Clark - 23rd May 2009 at 16:09
Are you interested in a particular sector or the sea or the whole of the Irish Sea?
There were a lot of aircraft recorded as having ditched or gone missing in the area though the Station Operations Record Book for Valley did not record any accidental shoot downs.
They often reported an unidentified aircraft which were intercepted by the resident Hurricane / Spitfire / Beaufighter (depending on which squadron was present) and reported as a friendly. These tended to be Whitleys and Wellingtons from OTUs.
The only confirmed case I have is this one from the No.312 Squadron Operations Record Book, at the time they were based at Speke.
October 13th 1940, “1800 A most regrettable incident has occurred, a Blenheim fighter being shot down into the sea in flames in mistake for an E/A. The pilots concerned were S/Ldr Ambrus, F/Lt Comerford and Sgt Stehlik. An unfortunate chain of circumstances led the three pilots to believe that two machines they had sighted while on patrol over Point of Aire were E/A. S/Ldr Ambrus opened fire on one of them and was followed by F/Lt Comerford who fired a short burst. Sgt Stehlik also fired a short burst at a distance of about 1100 yards, but states that he was sighting and testing his guns. The attacked machine fired two red lights, the recognition signal of the day, but too late, as at the same time it burst into flames and crashed into the sea. It is feared that its three occupants were all killed.”
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