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How many A-4's are operational today?

I have recently read ‘Heinemann’s Hot Rod’ (Jim Winchester). And can’t help being amazed by the little ‘Scooter’. 😎

I was wondering how many A-4’s that actually are operational today?

According to what I can find, only the Brazilian Navy has some 30 operational Skyhawks left? And the New Zealand, Argentinian and Israeli airforces has retired theirs? Years ago?

Some civilian operator/s should still have it in their fleet? If my degrading memory serves me correctly, I think i read in a magazine at my library- a year ago, or so – that a couple of Israeli Skyhawks was delivered ‘somewhere in Europe’ for upgrading/refurbishment for . . . . who?

By the way, I find it fascinating that individuals, like Ed Heinemann and ‘Kelly’ Johnson, were able to ‘think’ and design the planes they did. Guess that’s not possible to the same extend with todays complexity.

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By: Jesper - 28th April 2009 at 09:52

Thank you all for your information πŸ™‚

There’s a nice early Scooter being restored at Oshkosh (i believe) – regular updates on Warbird Information Exchange

Almost forgot about the Warbird Information Exchange forums. (How could I ? . . . :rolleyes: )

Thank you bringing my attention back to that site πŸ™‚

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By: attitude - 28th April 2009 at 02:14

Israel still uses the TA-4’s for training

Indonesia still uses some of their A-4’s

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By: Bager1968 - 28th April 2009 at 01:31

Does the Singapore AF still operate A-4s, I remember seeing a couple at Waddington about 7 or 8 years ago. Were they the ex-RNZAF aircraft?

The Republic of Singapore Air Force (RSAF) purchased 47 refurbished Skyhawks (40 A-4B, 7 TA-4) from U.S. in 1972. The aircraft were re-designated A-4S/TA-4S. The “T” version of the RSAF Skyhawk was unique in that, rather than the single “clam shell” canopy common to other TA-4 models, each TA-4S cockpit had a separate canopy.

From 1984 to 1989, the RSAF conducted a Skyhawk service life extension program. The 8,400-lb-thrust J65 engines were replaced with 11,000 lb. thrust F404-GE-100D turbofans. Other upgrades included modified engine air intakes; new structural mounts to accommodate the F404 engines; installation of new refrigeration, hydraulic pumps, air turbine starters, and oil coolers; new sensors, cockpit instrumentation, and state-of-the-art avionics; engine and environmental control systems; higher output electrical generators; and improved air-to-air and air-to-ground ordnance carrying and control capability.

Re-designated as A-4SU “Super Skyhawk,” the refurbished Skyhawks became operational in 1988, and Skyhawk pilot training was fully operational in March 1989. With the total RSAF inventory of about 60 aircraft, the three Singapore Skyhawk units (142, 143, and 145 Squadrons), operating from Tengah Air Base, made up a numerical majority of that country’s military aircraft.

In late 1997, the RSAF Skyhawk training unit (143 squadron) was disbanded as part of a new advanced jet training effort. The former 143 Squadron A-4SUs were shipped to southwest France in September 1998 where, at Cazaux Air Base, 150 Squadron was established for advance training of RSAF pilots. The French site was selected because of available practice bombing ranges and airspace over the North Atlantic for ACM training, as well as opportunity for electronic warfare technique practice.

In October 2003, the RSAF announced three survivors in the competition to replace the A-4SU Skyhawk: the Boeing F-15T Strike Eagle, the Dassault Rafale, and the Eurofighter Typhoon. Dropped from consideration were the General Dynamics F-16 Fighting Falcon, the Boeing FA-18E/F Super Hornet, and the Sukov Su-30/35 Flanker. A contract for as many as 24 replacement aircraft may be let in 2004, but, since the replacement for the A-4SUs is viewed as an interim solution, the final number ordered could be well below the projected 24 and the service life of the venerable old Skyhawk could be extended. The Lockheed-Martin F-35 JSF (Joint Strike Fighter) has entered the picture. Since Singapore is expected to be a player in the JSF project as a “Security Cooperation Participant,” if the F-35 is ordered the first deliveries could occur as early as 2012-2015.

Singapore Update:
“Mike” of the “Skyhawk Study Group” has reported that 142 Squadron, the last Singapore Air Force A-4 Skyhawk squadron, was disestablished on April 1, 2005.
The SAF Advanced Jet Training Detachment (150 Squadron), consisting of four Skyhawks and currently operating from Cazaux, France, is scheduled for disestablishment in 2007.
12 April 2005

http://www.skyhawk.org/2e/singapore/singapore.htm

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By: flyernzl - 27th April 2009 at 20:51

All the surviving ex-RNZAF Skyhawks are in outdoor storage at Woodbourne airfield (top of the South Island).
Various attempts to sell them over the last few years have not proceeded.
A political hot-potato!

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By: Alan Clark - 27th April 2009 at 18:35

Does the Singapore AF still operate A-4s, I remember seeing a couple at Waddington about 7 or 8 years ago. Were they the ex-RNZAF aircraft?

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By: Arabella-Cox - 27th April 2009 at 18:32

I had a pair of IDF A4s fly over me today, but then again I am currently only a few miles from Israel’s Hatzerim airbase

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By: Mark12 - 27th April 2009 at 16:12

Not operational, but a preserved example I captured at Tigre, Argentina, in 2003.

Mark

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By: Creaking Door - 27th April 2009 at 15:53

…the New Zealand, Argentinian and Israeli airforces has retired theirs? Years ago?

The Argentine Air Force (Fuerza AΓ©rea Argentina or FAA) still operates some A-4AR (modernized ex-USMC A-4M) out of a total of 36 that were delivered between 1997 and 2000. The A-4AR serial numbers are C-901 to C-936. Two have been lost in accidents and, other than those in squadron service, the rest are in storage.

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By: contrailjj - 27th April 2009 at 15:52

and the Collings Foundation’s TA-4…

http://www.collingsfoundation.org/tx_TA4_training.htm

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By: Oxcart - 27th April 2009 at 14:26

There’s a nice early Scooter being restored at Oshkosh (i believe) – regular updates on Warbird Information Exchange

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By: Phantom Phil - 27th April 2009 at 12:44

A-4

Hi there, check this link πŸ˜€ :

http://www.planepictures.net/show.php?id=799526

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By: Topgun1984 - 27th April 2009 at 12:38

Well i know certainly there are a few active on Wittmund AFB in the northpart of Germany (yes one of the last F-4 bases left in germany before converting to the Typhoon..

Here they are

A-4 N431FS BAE Systems
A-4 N432FS BAE Systems
A-4 N434FS BAE Systems
A-4 N437FS BAE Systems
A-4 N262WL BAE Systems

Most of them are Blue with White
but a few have a Camo c/s

Greetings,

TG1984

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