March 23, 2009 at 8:35 am
Anyone got a photo of the Vickers Armstrong Type 253, the biplane prototype that preceded the Wellesley?
By: pagen01 - 3rd January 2013 at 11:11
Indeed welcome Michael, very unusual to find a direct link to that period of test-pilots, and would love to hear more.
I’m assuming that this excellent webpage is about your father, https://sites.google.com/site/mickyogden/home
I take it the 253 was trialling the Pegasus through its various developments with Bristol at the time?
By: Dave Homewood - 2nd January 2013 at 23:25
Welcome to the forum Michael. Very interesting stuff. I wonder which Britstol engine types they trialed on this airframe.
By: avion ancien - 2nd January 2013 at 22:11
It’s posts like yours, Michael, that cause me to stay around here! But you might add to the pleasure by scanning and posting extracts from your father’s log book – please!
By: ogdenm - 2nd January 2013 at 20:14
K2771 G4/31
My father, W/Cdr C V Ogden, was a test pilot at Bristol Aeroplane Company at Filton from 1935 to Nov 1941 and references to G4/31 started to appear in his log book in March 1937. A search on the internet revealed that it was the Vickers 253 prototype, which had been passed to Bristol’s as an test bed http://www.aer.ita.br/~bmattos/mundo/ww2/british/pages/VICKERS%20G4%2031.htm . From March 1937 to April 1939 he recorded 54.25 hours on this aircraft
Michael Ogden
Found it at last.
Mark
Brooklands
By: pagen01 - 28th March 2009 at 11:59
These pics are also courtesy of Putnam, this time Francis K Masons’ The British Bomber.
Vickers 253 G.4/31

AM Photo

AM Photo
The H.P.47 G.4/31, with ‘Maj’ Cordes at the controls

The Aeroplane Photo
Apologies for dire image quality, they scanned perfectly, but didn’t compress too well.
By: pagen01 - 28th March 2009 at 10:15
Oh for a time machine, I would even settle for a geodetic one!
By: Dave Homewood - 28th March 2009 at 10:12
Here’s a lovely shot of Mutt Summers demonstrating the prettier predecessor, Vildebeest NZ101.

By: pagen01 - 28th March 2009 at 09:52
Fantastic looking machine I reckon, I just love some of the British prototypes from the 1920-’30s. I wonder if that is ‘Mutt’ Summers at the helm?
I prefer the Handley Page 47 submission for G.4/31, that was a stressed skin monoplane, amongst a field of skeletal fabric covered has beens!
By: JDK - 28th March 2009 at 08:08
nowhere near as pretty as the Vildebeest
A phrase rare in literature. 😀
By: Dave Homewood - 28th March 2009 at 08:06
Yes, it’s nowhere near as pretty as the Vildebeest but certainly looks more robust (though the Vilde was a tough old bird in her own right).
By: JDK - 28th March 2009 at 08:03
That is an interesting looking machine, with a certain amount of lineage passed on from the Vickers Vildebeest and Vincent family by the look of things.
Kind of. Designed to replace those, it won the tender but was itself supplanted (for production) by the Wellesley. If you look at the fuselage, you can see it acts as a ‘missing-link’ between the Vildebeest and Wellesley.
By: Dave Homewood - 28th March 2009 at 07:58
That is an interesting looking machine, with a certain amount of lineage passed on from the Vickers Vildebeest and Vincent family by the look of things.
By: Newforest - 28th March 2009 at 07:49
Really looks like a collection of spare parts cobbled together or a film prop!:p
By: Mark12 - 28th March 2009 at 07:30
Found it at last.
Mark
Brooklands
By: JDK - 23rd March 2009 at 09:24
Thank you John! Lovely. Quite the campervan.
By: John Aeroclub - 23rd March 2009 at 09:18
From the Putnams Vickers Aircraft since 1908 (Andrews and Morgan).
John
