Vickers Vanguard prototype G-AOYW

AMB,
Here’s another thought – have you seen this MSN group – could be worth a post…think there’s a few ex-Vickers/BAC “lurkers” their.
http://groups.msn.com/WisleyAirfield/_whatsnew.msnw
Hope that helps..has some great photos anyway if you’re passionate about the big V’s products..:)

A couple of years ago I got involved in assisting a widow to dispose of her husbands lifelong collection of aircraft models . To my surprise a couple of months ago she rang to say she had found some more boxes of stuff , as she was passing this way soon if I wanted she could drop them off , which she did . The bulk of what I was given was half a dozen biscuit boxes of articles and pictures torn out of magazines dating back to the early 1940’s and probably ending in the early 1970’s . I am in the process of sorting through them and getting them into some sort of order . I have found five different black and white photos of your aircraft . The scheme as depicted in the first three simulations is close but there are detail errors . I am not particularly clever with computers so do not know how to display photos but if you are interested in seeing them I could scan and email them for you . Alternatively the front cover of Air Pictorial March 1959 , pages 188 and 189 of Flight 6 February 1959 are the sources of some of the pictures .

Good idea,I’ll give it a go!

Many thanks

Hi AMB,
Have you tried posting your question on PPRuNe, in the Aviation and Nostalgia forum…
http://www.pprune.org/aviation-history-nostalgia-86/
I’d be suprised if you didn’t find some ex-Vickers guys, who just might shed some light on the subject. Certainly the thread that got running on Wisley produced some knowledgable postings.
Just a thought…:)

Thanks very much for your help everyone, but regret ‘research’ from peoples’ memories is seldom a substitute for a colour photograph and the colours need to be 100% accurate for a commercial company. Alas, I have all the Vanguard books and there is nothing in colour in any of them.
Indeed G-APEA appeared in the BEA peony red scheme with greenish-grey wings and belly and it appeared in public at the Paris Air Show in June 59, but G-AOYW was never seen in public as 1958 as far as I’m aware.

A Google search has revealed this info:

| 1- – 0804 | Flight Archive810 FLIGHT, 21 November 1958 CIVIL AVIATION The first Vanguard, G-AOYW, is almost completed, … Colour- scheme is pale blue-green and white. Now would that be a bluish-green or a greenish-blue?:rolleyes:

Hi New Forrest

Yes understood…sorry……I must have just read it wrong

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Rick Pipers Vanguard has been around for many years now,

Originally for 2002 is still works well now. His sight was hacked so the model packages were affected there

There are many liveries for this model and his Viscount and Viking

Take a look a Classic British Flight Sim and join for free if you want.

There are a few downloads only available to members.

That will tell you all you want to know here

Last year I asked another member to make a film to commemorate the 49th anniversary of the first flight.

it was uploaded that day

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPJlU_6Etzo

Gary, that is an amazing bit of work! I’m looking to add some British turbo props to go along side the brilliant D. Maltby British jetliners on FS2004.
Is the Vanguard readily available and are there other classics in the offing?

As we will celebrate it’s 50th next year, why was the Vanguard of apparently such low appeal?
On paper, and to look at, it seems a perfect propliner built by a great company and with good engines (at last on British TP), but didn’t seem to have the success and longevity of say the Electra or even the far older Viscount.

Too touchy Garry, no criticism of your efforts implied or intended. I think your efforts are superb and certainly beyond anything I could achieve. I was merely applauding the discovery of a rare photo!:D

After laying derelict with all useful parts removed it was scrapped in about October 1964

Great piece of research, I just remember the BEA Vanguards going up and down Edinburgh – London.
Can anyone tell us what happen to the prototype as from what is above it was very short lived?

Its not colour but it does show a different scheme.

That is the scheme in the last three screen shots pictured above.

new forrest

No colour pics could be faound and he wanted to know the colours so I showed him the results of many weeks research

It is the best I can do

If I had REAL pics I would have shown them

But it is a REAL picture, congratulations!:)

Its not colour but it does show a different scheme.

I know of no colour photos

All based on an old die cast model I remember as a kid, a photo of a model at Brooklands, descriptions of the livery and a friend who is involved with the Vanguard at Brooklands speaking to others there and who were involved with the programme.

Vickers described the wings and fuse as Duck Egg Blue but all the indications are than it was a little bluer than DEB which is quite greenish at times.

The blue and gold are the standard Vickers house colours

The is talk but no pics that G-AOYW was painted in the BEA peony livery but it was certainly rolled out as above.

Perhaps the BEA livery which changed at that time was over painted which would account for the style and then fully painted in the Vickers livery

G-APEA did were the peony for a short time before going on tour with a modified BEA scheme.

My research also comes to the conclusion that G-AOYW never went anywhere. G-APEB did the Farnborough in the new Red Square and G-APEA went off rout proving and sale touring in BEA Peony and modded Peony.

I researched this extensively for a Flight Simulator paint of Rick Pipers model

Thanks Gary, so I presume you must have used a colour photograph in your research? Do you have that to share please? I am curious to see it has blue wings and belly?:confused: I naturally assumed this was light grey?

I researched this extensively for a Flight Simulator paint of Rick Pipers model

The first version (real aircraft did not have dorsal at this time).

Second version

Have you tried looking in Jane’s AWA?

I’m only thinking out loud, but in those days Flight used its front cover as an advert. Could there be a Vickers advert of that time in colour for a Flight cover with the Vanguard on?

Books will be your best bet I’m guessing. If that fails try to get in touch with the Brooklands Museum, they could have some images in their archives.

didn’t brooklands museum have a model of Vanguard in house colours in their gift shop?