Barton Crash site

I hear yer Lindy’s lad

you might find something, the only chance is the embankment that it hit, you might find bits left from that area. but youve already answered the problem the area has been heavily redeveloped. the answer to private land question is i think the crash area falls into a couple of people’s back garden and an area of public footpath before the golf course.

there is a nice plaque but up in a street to the south of the crash site.

it is interesting going of the old maps and sketches ive seen of the area that there could be some of the embankment in place that the walkway went over.

I made my comparison research using this great web page http://www.ryhope-village.co.uk/vinegar_hill.htm

Fred Carr is done a brilliant job of bringing this area back to 1944 its amazing to see how much the area has changed.

i fancy a pop down just to compare what it looks like now.

neil

Barton Crash site

According to my colleague, all the wreckage was removed by the RAF, although some bits were kept by some of the locals.Nothing was found when the colliery was demolished and with the housing developments, unlikely that anything still exists.

I was checking this out last week, ,……..”
neil

Is this a potential dig, Neil?

I assume the majority of the wreck would have been removed at the time, and any remaining fragments would be long consumed by the landscaping over the area when the houses were built and the colliery was re-developed.

(oh and by the way, I could be there in ten mins……;) )

Thanks; from the posts above, a search on Google earth shows that someone has linked a ‘Panoramio’ shot ‘View from Tunstall Hill over Ryhope..’ that shows some ‘chalk walls’ (clearly geology not my thing!) on the embankment which just about matches some shots at the Yorkshire Air Museum of the crash site. So the question still stands- is it worth an afternoon poking about?

Barton crash site

I was checking this out last week, i believe the crash site is at the end of Leatham St, Ryhope Colliery.

You can still see some of the earthworks on google maps that the big walkway went over into the streets from the colliery. The halifax partly destroyed this walkway and the colliery house destoyed is someone’s back garden now.

neil

Barton crash site

The Grid references on the NEAM site appear to be incorrect, the approx crash site OS ref is NZ399535, the Ryhope colliery site has been redeveloped with housing & a Golf course.
Use www.dmm.org.uk, mining, colliery maps, ryhope colliery,1950s detailed map, this is a map of the colliery, the embankment (where parts of Halifax came to rest) can be seen to the left of the centre of the map.
Some streets on this map still exist (refer to www.streetmap.co.uk, look for hewitt avenue sunderland).
A colleague from my working days with the National Coal Board, remembers the local school kids getting parts from the crash and being visited by the local policeman to return the parts they had taken, (perspex, instruments etc)

There’s a good eyewitness description here, which includes info on the location, including an approximate OS ref:

http://www.neam.co.uk/ryhope.html

I’d also be interested to hear any further information anyone else has.

Cheers

Simon

Sorry- should have been more specific, I was referring to the Barton VC crash at Ryhope.

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Or are we talking about Barton VC ?

That site is on private land, there were some parts remaining a few years back including a couple of small panels that were still up in the surrounding trees.

Mosquito?

Assume you are talking about G-ASKH / RR299/HT-E, the last airworthy Mosquito which was destroyed in a fatal crash at an airshow at Barton, Manchester in 1996.

If so I do know that a surprising amount of wreckage was left at the crash site near to the airfield and a number of people took “souvenirs” 🙁 Later the group who had a museum at Barton carried out an excavation and recovered what was left including if I recall correctly most of the instrument panel – Far too soon after the event IMO.

What crash?