Last RAF air to air kill?

The helo was in the air, just close to land the Gendarmery commandoes.
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Discussed recently 🙂

http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/showthread.php?t=72682

Just one possibility: On 30 may 1982, one argentinean Puma transporting gendarmery commandoes was downed by unknown cause close to Mt Kent. There was a ground attack by Harrier GR-3 on that day and almost same time in the zone.
Now it seemed to be an own downing by argentineans, but, although unknown by the pilots, Harrier implication can´t be discarded. They rocketted Mt Wall zone although probably Mt Kent slopes could be hit.

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I’m aware the GR.3s were ground attack, but some of 1 sqns aircraft were equiped with AIM-9 Sidewinder AAMs especially for the conflict.
However it seems they were only tasked for ground attack when they reached the islands.

No GR3 air to airs in FI. And, yes, that’s true that you have to go all the way back to Spits.

Because, of course (just to be fair about this!), the SHARS did the air combat and the GR3s did their assigned role of ground attack.

Nothing in Korea?

Purely a RN/Commonwealth show?

Nope, only RAF elements were transport, AOP and some Sunderlands.

Nothing in Suez, Malaya or Indonesia.

There are some ‘possibles’

(i) Hunters in Oman – they frequently pursued Yemen Mig-17s attacking inside Oman, but were forbidden from pursuing them over the border. There was, however, a report in Flypast that at least one piece of camera gun footage showed hits on a Mig. However, as that was apparently ‘over the border’ it’s not followed up!

(ii) There are all sorts of rumours about an Indonesian C-130 and a Javelin, including one that the Jave returned with an empty missile rail.

(iii) The GR3s in the Falklands did destroy some helicopters on the ground -now if one of them was ‘rotors turning’. does that count? 🙂

Nothing in Korea?

Purely a RN/Commonwealth show?

Being away from references, but didn’t Harrier GR.3s score any kills during the Falklands?
Surely the last RAF AA kill dosen’t go all the way back to Spitfires?

No GR3 air to airs in FI. And, yes, that’s true that you have to go all the way back to Spits.

isn’t that always the way? I had a bimble on the way out at about 3 pm – have a mate who used to go to a lot of MG events in a cash hole of a Jubilee Special.

Lovely day up there as you know – would have been nice to have seen a few warbirds wheeled out into the sunshine, but yes, had two boys with me and the scout quiz sheets (there were a few hundred others there as well I guess you saw!).

As for my thread question, Spitfires in 1948 ? Thats a shocker but it makes sense I guess.

oh blast, i was at DX today, i may have seen you at somepoint 🙂 i was with the massive group of classic MGs that were there

did you have a good day?

Being away from references, but didn’t Harrier GR.3s score any kills during the Falklands?
Surely the last RAF AA kill dosen’t go all the way back to Spitfires?

Didn’t any RAF Tornado F3s shoot down any Iraqi aircraft during Gulf War 1?

No, Only things that were launched from the F3’s during GW1 were three sets of Hindenburger drop tanks when some F-3’s were tasked to engage Iraqi Heilcopters. In all three cases the Iraqi’s landed or were engaged by other aircraft before the F-3’s got in Skyflash range. Rumour has it that a couple of RAF F-3’s were lined up to engage a pair of Mirage F1’s over the gulf, but they were pulled off the targets to give a RSAF F-15 the kills.

GR1’s may have got what could be called a couple of boarderline air to airs, in that they sprayed JP233 submuntions over at least one Iraqi (Mirage F-1) aircraft in the process of taking off which may have just got its wheels off the deck. Rumour has it that a Mig 25 was also taken out while on its take off run by JP233 submuntions hitting it from above.

Last RAF air-to-air kill

I think the last RAF ‘Kill’ was when a RAF Phantom downed a RAF Jaguar over Germany in 1982…………

…Splash..one Jaguar.. not sure if this counts John, but here’s the culprit. The ‘kill’ marking has all the stigma of an ‘own goal’, I feel.

Didn’t any RAF Tornado F3s shoot down any Iraqi aircraft during Gulf War 1?

I was reading AFM last night and the write up on the RN carriers, plans for JSF:mad: and the demise of the Sea Harrier:(. It said (rightly) that the Sea Harrier was the highest scoring naval fighter of the last two decades (beats the F-18 and F-14 by a country mile) It also mentioned that an RAF operated aircraft hadn’t scored air to air in decades. It got me thinking…. RAF pilots scored kills in SHAR’s in the Falklands, but when was the last RAF kill in one of their own aircraft?

Malaya, 1965 or so with the “alleged” C-130 or did that crash while evading?

Off to Duxford today with two cubs to help with their airmanship badges – its a tough job but somebody has to do it !:D

A couple of RAF Spitfires shot down a couple of Egyptian Spitfires during the Arab – Isriali war of 1948 when the EAF attacked RAF Ramat David during the British pull out. Last offical comfirmed kill by an RAF pilot in an RAF Aircraft was one of them.

I think the last RAF ‘Kill’ was when a RAF Phantom downed a RAF Jaguar over Germany in 1982…………