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Cunliffe Owen Concordia

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By: pagen01 - 7th May 2009 at 16:36

It and Vanguard, are, I think, the sole wholly privately-funded civil types that the industry has attempted.

And Percival Merganser/Prince surely, didn’t think that came from an MoS (or other) spec?

It strikes me that the Prince and Concordia were just to similar for a fairly restricted market, AUW, dimensions and engines almost identical, the Prince had the advantage of a much handier layout and full aircraft company behind it though.

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By: alertken - 7th May 2009 at 10:48

Concordia is of some economic-political significance to the post-War UK aero industry, as a how-not-to case.

Sir Hugo Cunliffe-Owen was senior in Br.American Tobacco. In 1937 he was looking for entry to the Air Rearmament business. Like others he chose to licence a foreign type, Burnelli UB-14, to circumvent Air Ministry’s restriction of design contracts to established teams in the Ring. He then won sub-contract from V-S for Spitfire wings. That led to Sister Firm design and production co-ordinator for Seafire, plus other Civilian Repair Organisation business. What to do in Peace? Again, like others, the Dakota replacement beckoned. Unlike others he had a go at private risk.

BEAC showed (or was required to show) some interest in Concordia. His banker refused to extend COA’s overdraft: your choice: bankers’ prudence (he had history, in 1935 on the fringes of pepper and shellac share scandals), or the economic absurdity of new-build v.scrap-price C-47s.

It and Vanguard, are, I think, the sole wholly privately-funded civil types that the industry has attempted.

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By: Jayviator - 7th May 2009 at 00:51

As I live in Eastleigh i am very interested in the concordia, so i was pleased when i got this old advert, dated may 30th 1947, just 11 days after the first flight.
http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh160/AstroGeo/Concordia.jpg

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By: daveg4otu - 30th October 2008 at 21:25

Thanks for that link Richard… my error in name noted(and will be corrected) – but even more interesting is the picture on the webpage of the ex Beaulieu hangar at Totton.

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By: pogno - 30th October 2008 at 20:50

Did it fly from what is now Marwell Zoo ?

Marwell Hall was used by C-O for handling aircraft modified at Eastleigh….

http://daveg4otu.tripod.com/airfields/mwh.html

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See this site, its the history of the Jetex model aircraft jet engine,http://64.233.183.104/search?q=cache:y7zQeczwLLQJ:jetex.org/history/path_to_jetex.html+jetex+history+marwell&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=uk fThhere for
They were based at Marwell making target gliders as Wilmot, Mansour & Co., Ltd, rather than Willmot & Manser.

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By: daveg4otu - 30th October 2008 at 12:04

Did it fly from what is now Marwell Zoo ?

As said above it was built and flew from Eastleigh…links below to my Eastleigh page,Cunliffe Owen page( where there is a picture of the Factory),Southampton Page (pic of the Concordia), and Cunliffe-Owen Production Page

http://daveg4otu.tripod.com/airfields/eap.html
http://daveg4otu.tripod.com/co.html
http://daveg4otu.tripod.com/ah1900/soton.html
http://daveg4otu.tripod.com/ah1900/cicuprod.html

Marwell Hall was used by C-O for handling aircraft modified at Eastleigh….

http://daveg4otu.tripod.com/airfields/mwh.html

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By: pagen01 - 4th October 2008 at 18:26

Another disadvantage to the Prince, but most airports have airstairs and maybe the production Concordia could have incoporated a hinged downward door with stairs.

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By: DeHavEng - 4th October 2008 at 18:15

good grief how on earth are you supposed to board that without air-stairs?

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By: Newforest - 4th October 2008 at 16:57

Based at Eastleigh weren’t they? Same place as where the Cierva C.9 and Air Horse were built.

And Ford Transit!:D (Maybe not for much longer.:()

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By: pagen01 - 4th October 2008 at 16:11

Based at Eastleigh weren’t they? Same place as where the Cierva C.9 and Air Horse were built.

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By: bazv - 4th October 2008 at 16:09

Just answering my previous question,presumably flew from Eastleigh

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By: pagen01 - 4th October 2008 at 16:06

I guess it just came to close to the Percival Merganser and Prince in concept for its own good.
Shame the company just ended up making bathtubs!

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By: bazv - 4th October 2008 at 16:05

Did it fly from what is now Marwell Zoo ?

cheers baz

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By: old eagle - 4th October 2008 at 14:25

last one

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By: old eagle - 4th October 2008 at 14:24

……so I’m bored

hope these are of use/interest

If anyone would like higher res of the Scans pls PM me

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