'New' Spitfire/Seafire Query

Didn’t that shift already begin with PV202?

A civilian modern day loss is one thing, I thought a wartime loss would invoke outcries.

Interesting so if P9373 is being “rebuilt” does this mean there is a shift in attitude towards “rebuilding” wrecks that have involved loss of life.

Never been a problem with the wartime loss of the enemies’ lives. Still ‘lives’ though.

Didn’t that shift already begin with PV202?

Interesting so if P9373 is being “rebuilt” does this mean there is a shift in attitude towards “rebuilding” wrecks that have involved loss of life.

Which makes you wonder why a Hurricane ‘escaped’ for a mere £8000!

TT

I’m not so sure that it actually did “sell” for that sum at all! 😉

Mark V. By definition, the start point for future Spitfire “restorations” will clearly diminish in quality as the years go by.

I would use the word ‘quantity’ rather than ‘quality’ – I think they will always need to be cast iron on the provenance front even if at times it gets a little ‘thin’!

Which makes you wonder why a Hurricane ‘escaped’ for a mere £8000!

TT

I think that says a lot about the complexity (and expense) of the restoration of a Hurricane compared with the Spitfire 😉

Andy

Thanks for update on P9372

Paul

I think this thread says a lot about the future of Spitfire restorations.

Which makes you wonder why a Hurricane ‘escaped’ for a mere £8000!

TT

Old Flypast post from a well known Spitfire expert

“However both P9372 and P9373 (The ‘Time Team’ Spitfire) have been recovered and yielded plates indicating the cockpit/fuselage construction number.”

So P9372 has been recovered?? This was lost on 9th Sept 1940, when flown by P/O W.C.Watling of No 92 He baled out wounded (burned). The aircraft must of crashed near Biggin Hill

Paul. P/O Watling’s aeroplane crashed at East Guldeford, Nr Rye, East Sussex whilst he landed in the sea off Winchelse Beach with burns. The Spitfire was recovered some years ago and is in private hands. The identity of the Spitfire was established beyond doubt as P9372 from data plates in wreckage.

Mark V. By definition, the start point for future Spitfire “restorations” will clearly diminish in quality as the years go by.

I think this thread says a lot about the future of Spitfire restorations.

All that is needed is P9372 to complete the set! Not impossible. 😉

Old Flypast post from a well known Spitfire expert

“However both P9372 and P9373 (The ‘Time Team’ Spitfire) have been recovered and yielded plates indicating the cockpit/fuselage construction number.”

So P9372 has been recovered?? This was lost on 9th Sept 1940, when flown by P/O W.C.Watling of No 92 He baled out wounded (burned). The aircraft must of crashed near Biggin Hill

P9373 – the ex-Time Team recovered Spitfire of Sgt Paul Klipsch. Interesting!
P9374 – the Calais beach recovered Spitfire of F/O Peter Cazenove and now with John Romain at Duxford.
All that is needed is P9372 to complete the set! Not impossible. 😉

Or P9375. Which would expand the ex-222 Sqn mafia even further. Speaking of which, AR614 and BL614 are another interesting coincidence.

P9373 – the ex-Time Team recovered Spitfire of Sgt Paul Klipsch. Interesting!

P9374 – the Calais beach recovered Spitfire of F/O Peter Cazenove and now with John Romain at Duxford.

All that is needed is P9372 to complete the set! Not impossible. 😉

Howabout the worse two are LA546 and LA564 years of confusion with those

TE565 and TE566 (more or less).

a propos absolutely nothing always thought it a coincidence

ML407, ML417 and ML427 are all survivors

PM630 in Thailand and PM631 with the BBMF are a pair of serials that come to mind.

G-AIST and G-AISU, sequential British Spitfire registrations from yesteryear.

Mark

AND the C/N are in sequence as well !!!!!!!!! Which is even more suprising!

4 G-CFGN P9373 SPITFIRE I
5 G-MKIA P9374 SPITFIRE I

Blimey – two in-sequence serials numbers? That doesn’t happen often!