September 20, 2008 at 7:00 pm
Anyone know the reasoning behind these two (three?) Harvards decked out in Luftwaffe colours?
http://www.airliners.net/photo/North-American-T-6G/1224792/L/
By: J Boyle - 21st September 2008 at 17:12
You can see part of the Condor Squadron in action in the mid-1980s Pat Benatar video “Shadows of the Night”.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ME0U9nY0AH4
Check out the neat Mustang poster in the opening and closing scenes…
I found the squadron at Van Nuys in the late 1970s…I got the impression they were more of a flying club with some rather unusual aircraft rather than just a group rented for film work.
By: DazDaMan - 21st September 2008 at 14:11
Seems to be the same group of “enemy” planes that attacks the SS Lane Victory, weather permitting, while she steams off California!
Airplane-Condors Pics here
SS Lane Victory here
http://www.lanevictory.org/index.htm
Quite the cruise!!:eek: Might be too much for some older vets!
They have a nice bit of footage on YouTube showing the ship being set upon by (what looks like) a Yak and a Tora! replica Val.
By: Biggles1049 - 21st September 2008 at 07:24
Here’s another
N77LT at Everett , Washington USA in June 1980
By: CSheppardholedi - 21st September 2008 at 03:55
Seems to be the same group of “enemy” planes that attacks the SS Lane Victory, weather permitting, while she steams off California!
Airplane-Condors Pics here
SS Lane Victory here
http://www.lanevictory.org/index.htm
Quite the cruise!!:eek: Might be too much for some older vets!
By: DazDaMan - 20th September 2008 at 23:12
Thanks for that reply, Consul. Most informative. Haven’t heard of this outfit before!
Of course, I find any and all “film” Harvards interesting as well! 🙂
By: Consul - 20th September 2008 at 21:31
Sorry but I don’t think that genuine use by the Luftwaffe of T-6s or the machines used in the Great Escape film (for locations used in that movie see: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0057115/locations) have any connection with the T-6s that DazDaMan mentions. The examples depicted were painted up solely for the reason quoted in my earlier post. Hope this helps.
Tim
By: Arabella-Cox - 20th September 2008 at 20:30
[QUOTE=benyboy;1300702
So what do you do on Christmas day:):):)[/QUOTE]
They don’t show “Great Esacpe” on tv here in Germany on Christmas Day! :):):)
Peter
By: benyboy - 20th September 2008 at 20:28
[QUOTE=Peter Garner;1300699]I haven’t seen “The Great Escape” but Luftwaffe Harvards can also be seen in “Where Eagles dare” and it seems that here they also got the markings right.
So what do you do on Christmas day:):):)
By: Arabella-Cox - 20th September 2008 at 20:26
So the airfield scene in Great escape is accurate:)
I haven’t seen “The Great Escape” but Luftwaffe Harvards can also be seen in “Where Eagles dare” and it seems that here they also got the markings right.
This, however, is another original Luftwaffe Naa 64
By: wieesso - 20th September 2008 at 20:14
‘Why are some of the planes in German markings?
The “good guys” need “bad guys” to shoot at when we conduct mock dog fights and air shows. It wouldn’t look right for American planes to be shooting at other Americans, so some of the planes feature Luftwaffe markings.’
http://condorsquadron.org/faq.htm
By: Consul - 20th September 2008 at 20:02
They are owned by private individuals in California and based at Van Nuys. They operate as part of a group known as the Condor Squadron. They only operate T-6 Texans of which they have about 15. They are usually parked up along the fence line of the field. There is a headquarters building adjacent. The group commemorates airmen lost in WW11. A proportion of their T-6s have been painted in Lufwaffe type marks purely for visual effect to enable the group to operate a good guy versus bad guy routine at airshows. They’ve been together as a group since the late 1960s. I visited them once about 9 years ago – all my pics are slides and not readily accessible or I would share them here. The follwoing link is to their website: http://condorsquadron.org/
Tim
By: wieesso - 20th September 2008 at 19:59
The second one is a North American SNJ-5, BuNo 85086, N12377
And the third one: N9525C or N7969C
http://www.airliners.net/photo/North-American-AT-6C/1188980/M/
http://www.airliners.net/photo/North-American-SNJ-5/1246232/M/
By: benyboy - 20th September 2008 at 19:58
The Luftwaffe used quite a few of them. I think they were captured in France and then used for training duties. I have more and better pictures of some. I’ll have to dig them out.
Peter
So the airfield scene in Great escape is accurate:)
Are they CAF `baddies` ?
By: Lindy's Lad - 20th September 2008 at 19:55
The date for the pic looks like 1987.
By: Arabella-Cox - 20th September 2008 at 19:51
The Luftwaffe used quite a few of them. I think they were captured in France and then used for training duties. I have more and better pictures of some. I’ll have to dig them out.
Peter
By: pimpernel - 20th September 2008 at 19:47
A quick google throws the front one involved in a fatal crash on 11 October 1993.
Brian.
By: WP840 - 20th September 2008 at 19:46
My first thought would be for film/tv work.
Unfortunatly exactly what film/tv I don’t know! 😮
Anybody….?