August 10, 2008 at 10:41 am
I have been looking at a copy of the programme for the Thruxton Air Races on 15 August 1948. It was won by a Spitfire 11 flown by Miss E.L.Curtis, a former ATA pilot. The programme records the registration of the Spitfire as N-74138. Was it a US registered Spitfire or is what appears a corruption of its British military serial? If the latter, would it have been unusual for a (presumably, by then) non service female pilot to be flying a military aircraft in a civilian organised air race? Can anyone shed any light on this?
By: Mark12 - 11th August 2008 at 22:11
Sorry, but this is going a little off topic now.
What a familiar name … being a modelist, his Spitfire marked “NK-K” is quite ubiquitous, even myself having a 1/18th scale example on the shelf.
Apart from that I never thought about A S C Lumsden. Actually I did not even think I would read his name again. Is there a biography behind that name? A quick google-search revealed nothing useful…
Try a Google search on “Alec Lumsden”.
Mark
By: ...starfire - 11th August 2008 at 20:52
Sorry, but this is going a little off topic now.
Image:- A.S.C.Lumsden
What a familiar name … being a modelist, his Spitfire marked “NK-K” is quite ubiquitous, even myself having a 1/18th scale example on the shelf.
Apart from that I never thought about A S C Lumsden. Actually I did not even think I would read his name again. Is there a biography behind that name? A quick google-search revealed nothing useful…
By: old eagle - 10th August 2008 at 22:35
And “Spitfire Women of World War II” is the name of a paperback book by Giles Whittell. I bought it last week and it’s a great read about the women of the ATA.
Fully recommend it…….sorry, not trying to steal the thread
By: Nashio966 - 10th August 2008 at 16:43
there is a fullspread picture of the spitfire illustrated above in the december 2007 issue of aeroplane monthly followed by an article called “Spitfire Women” makes for a cracking read (the picture in question matches the shceme of the above picture with a 4 on the tail dated 1948.
i knew id seen that aircraft before!
By: Mark12 - 10th August 2008 at 15:36
Spitfire F.24 VN324 flown by Guy Morgan ?
That is the one. 🙂
The data base says ‘Race number 7 Lympne’.
Mark
By: T-21 - 10th August 2008 at 15:03
Spitfire F.24 VN324 flown by Guy Morgan ?
By: Mark12 - 10th August 2008 at 14:04
Thanks as usual for the pic M12, so what was racing number 7 in the background ?
Love the “Fields” facility
Looks to be a MK 22/24 of the RAuxAF.
Several raced with tail numbers, but this is not one I recognise.
Mark
By: Mark12 - 10th August 2008 at 13:56
Any idea where the photo was taken? Clearly not at the Thruxton Air Races in 1948 as then the competition number of the aircraft was 18.
This photo was taken at the Lympne Air races of 28 August 1948. The Thruxton Air races were two weeks previous on 15 August.
I have several photos of this aircraft at this time all with race number 4. Indeed I have two colour images that Lettice says were taken at Thruxton again showing race number 4 and one of her being congratulated after her Thruxton victory…but the mind can play tricks over time.
Anybody with an image with race number 18?
Mark
By: avion ancien - 10th August 2008 at 13:03
Alive and not so well…but recovering and will fly again.
Mark
Image:- A.S.C.Lumsden
Any idea where the photo was taken? Clearly not at the Thruxton Air Races in 1948 as then the competition number of the aircraft was 18.
By: old eagle - 10th August 2008 at 12:12
Thanks as usual for the pic M12, so what was racing number 7 in the background ?
Love the “Fields” facility
By: l.garey - 10th August 2008 at 11:21
After serving with 4 and 2 Sqds it went straight from PL983 to N74138, and was at Old Warden from around 1950 for about 25 years, but not flying as far as I could tell.
By: Mark12 - 10th August 2008 at 11:17
Rapid resolution! Many thanks. It appears that it must have been a UK resident carrying US marks for quite some time. What was its pre 1948 civilian history?
21 May 1947 33 MU Lyneham.
22 July 1947 Contract loan to Vickers Eastleigh for the US Air Attache.
Sold to contractors.
Mark
By: Mark12 - 10th August 2008 at 11:12
Alive and not so well…but recovering and will fly again.
Mark
Image:- A.S.C.Lumsden
By: avion ancien - 10th August 2008 at 11:03
Rapid resolution! Many thanks. It appears that it must have been a UK resident carrying US marks for quite some time. What was its pre 1948 civilian history?
By: galdri - 10th August 2008 at 11:02
I think the Spit in question was owned privately by the american Air Attache to Britain, and was raced by Mrs. Curtis on the day. Not a military aircraft at the time, hence it´s civilian reg.
By: l.garey - 10th August 2008 at 10:57
Have a look at
[url]http://www.abpic.co.uk/search.php?q=N74138&u=reg[/url
Flown by Lettice Curtiss. I remember it being parked out at Old Warden years ago.
N74138 ex PL983, became G-PRXI. Last I heard was a crash at Rouen in 2001.
Laurence