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In an Air Enthusiast September 1972 article on the civilian 14/38 and 15/38 specifications that led to the Fairey FC1 and the Short S32, it mentions that prior to the specifications being produced, Handley Page had offered a ‘civil version of the HP97, later to be the Halifax bomber, carrying 25 passengers on a non-stop London-Copenhagen service, or 1,600lb of mail from Lisbon to Bathurst, Gambia.’

Does anyone know if this was to be a straight conversion of the bomber fuselage or were the wings etc to be joined to a new fuselage?

The actual civilian Halifax carried 11 passengers so 25 in the existing fuselage seems a bit cramped to me but possibly not enough for an Avro York type fuselage except for very long range.

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By: PMN1 - 30th July 2008 at 17:47

Sorry, just realsied I put a typo in,

It should have been a civilian version of the HP57…

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By: RPSmith - 30th July 2008 at 12:28

How did we jump from the Halifax to the Victor???

Roger Smith.

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By: wieesso - 30th July 2008 at 11:16

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread212956/pg1

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By: Malcolm McKay - 30th July 2008 at 11:01

In an Air Enthusiast September 1972 article on the civilian 14/38 and 15/38 specifications that led to the Fairey FC1 and the Short S32, it mentions that prior to the specifications being produced, Handley Page had offered a ‘civil version of the HP97, later to be the Halifax bomber, carrying 25 passengers on a non-stop London-Copenhagen service, or 1,600lb of mail from Lisbon to Bathurst, Gambia.’

Does anyone know if this was to be a straight conversion of the bomber fuselage or were the wings etc to be joined to a new fuselage?

The actual civilian Halifax carried 11 passengers so 25 in the existing fuselage seems a bit cramped to me but possibly not enough for an Avro York type fuselage except for very long range.

The HP97 was a civil transport study that had Victor wings and tail attached to a double bubble pressurised fuselage not unlike a Nimrod in shape.

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By: wieesso - 30th July 2008 at 07:51

‘It is not well known that each of the manufacturers of the three V-bombers had plans on the drawing board for transport variants of their planes. Vickers used the wing of the Valiant for the V1000 military transport and the VC7 airliner, while Handley Page used the wing of the Victor for the HP96 and HP111C military transports, and the HP97 Pacific airliner.’
http://bearalley.blogspot.com/2007/10/avro-698-big-delta.html

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