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What aircraft still fly that took part in the Normandy landings.

Who would have thought that 64 years on, that any WW2 aircraft would still be flying, let alone any that actually took part in the Normandy landings.
With my limited knowledge, it’s the Grace Spitfire, possibly some others, over to you Mark 12.
Presumably there are some Daks about, but are there any others of any type anywhere in the world that were airborne over the beaches 64 years ago today.
As far as I know, HMS Belfast is the only surviving warship that took part in the bombartment, or are there others lurking in the States.
It would be interesting to know, apart from the cutting edge troops, how much equipment of any type and significance survives from that day.

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By: Arabella-Cox - 9th June 2008 at 10:44

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i think i read somewhere that ml407 shared the second kill on d-day with mk7
32 the dutch spitfire they both flew with 485 sqn as ou-v ml407
mk732 was coded ou-u she used to display in these markings before she became silver with dutch codes

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By: flyingcloggie - 9th June 2008 at 08:25

flyingcloggie, it’s well known and documented that ML407 was active and scored the first kill plus had a hand in the second kill on D Day. Right down to the fact that pilot Johnny Houlton flew in it again over the beaches on the 50th Anniversary, as well as mentioning it in his book and in documentaries.

Where are you getting your information from? I’ve never heard it before.

It come from the book Spitfire the New Zealand story, but also with the Dutch at some time when they where restoring MK732. Maybe Mark12 can shine some light on it. Will see if I can dig up a copy of the sqn log.

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By: Fleet16b - 9th June 2008 at 06:30

Ithink you will find that the HMCS Haida was also at Normandy for the landings.
She is a tribal class destroyer and is Canada’s most celebrated warship.
The Hadia is well cared for and resides in Hamilton Ontario

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By: Dave Homewood - 9th June 2008 at 00:23

[QUOTE=’D-Day’;1256631]I have always understood that Johnnie Hulton was piloting MK950 OU-X on 6th when he shot down a JU88?[/QUOTE]

Where did you get that information from? I believe it to be incorrect.

And his name was Houlton.

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By: Arabella-Cox - 8th June 2008 at 18:05

Thought she was credited with a share in the first kill on D-Day with 485 (Ju88)?

EDIT I was right – see here

http://www.uk-warbirds.net/warbirdhistories.html

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I have always understood that Johnnie Hulton was piloting MK950 OU-X on 6th when he shot down a JU88?

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By: DazDaMan - 8th June 2008 at 11:22

In 1994 Johnny Houlton presented his logbook to Caroline Grace. I’m sure she must have the details correct on her website, especially having such a valuable original source material as that.

I don’t think the chap was really prepared to pay much attention to that, either!

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By: Fournier Boy - 8th June 2008 at 10:53

I am sure mr Ken Wakefields piper cub, served in the normandy campaign,
(author of “the blitz then a now”)
I havent seen it in recent years, but i imagine its still flying ?? in USAAF colours

Its not with Ken now, its now with Ben Cox’s father (he of air atlantique). Not sure if it did serve on D-day, although I understand he did put it into his authentic markings.

My cub served in the other D-Day – invasion of southern France in august 1944 – doesn’t seem to get marked in the same way though!

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By: Dave Homewood - 8th June 2008 at 02:39

There was a chap on here a while ago openly refuting the ‘407 claim. Suffice to say nobody paid him much attention.

In 1994 Johnny Houlton presented his logbook to Caroline Grace. I’m sure she must have the details correct on her website, especially having such a valuable original source material as that.

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By: Tom H - 7th June 2008 at 23:39

We have C-47 12927 on loan being displayed in our collection.

Apparently flew in the 16th wave with the RAF

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By: Arabella-Cox - 7th June 2008 at 21:23

About the ships… Our battleship (where I live), the USS Texas was there – and is a very historic surviving warship. It was there on D-Day. http://hnsa.org/ships/texas.htm
http://hnsa.org/ships/img/texas3.jpg
Very sad that more people do not go to see this ship. On the 60th anniversary (2004) my family and I went there for their commemorative ceremonies and there were less than 150 people there out of the whole city of Houston that showed up… We’re from San Antonio and thought it was worth the trip.

Ryan

She is also the only surviving dreadnaught type battleship (and the 2nd oldest battleship) left and with the Belfast the only two surviving heavy warships left from the D day bombardment which is history in itself.

Hopefully the new measures for dry berthing her at her current location will preserve her hull for future generations.

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By: Arabella-Cox - 7th June 2008 at 20:32

There was a chap on here a while ago openly refuting the ‘407 claim. Suffice to say nobody paid him much attention.

Was he the same guy who saw Douglas Bader in a Liverpool hotel/hospital during WWII, after he had been shot down behind enemy lines…:rolleyes:

Oh here we go again!!!!

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By: DazDaMan - 7th June 2008 at 19:07

flyingcloggie, it’s well known and documented that ML407 was active and scored the first kill plus had a hand in the second kill on D Day. Right down to the fact that pilot Johnny Houlton flew in it again over the beaches on the 50th Anniversary, as well as mentioning it in his book and in documentaries.

Where are you getting your information from? I’ve never heard it before.

There was a chap on here a while ago openly refuting the ‘407 claim. Suffice to say nobody paid him much attention.

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By: Arabella-Cox - 7th June 2008 at 17:26

About the ships… Our battleship (where I live), the USS Texas was there – and is a very historic surviving warship. It was there on D-Day. http://hnsa.org/ships/texas.htm
http://hnsa.org/ships/img/texas3.jpg
Very sad that more people do not go to see this ship. On the 60th anniversary (2004) my family and I went there for their commemorative ceremonies and there were less than 150 people there out of the whole city of Houston that showed up… We’re from San Antonio and thought it was worth the trip.

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By: Coert Munk - 7th June 2008 at 15:42

Dakota 42-100971, now PH-PBA, the former HRH Prince Bernard Dak of DDA Classic Airlines and frequent UK airshow visitor, flew during D-Day as 6E-B with 52nd Troop Carrier Wing / 316th Troop Carrier Group (TCG), operating from Cottesmore. Flew in the night of 5 to 6 June 1944 with chalk number #3 with troopers of 505th Parachute Infantry Regiment, 82nd Airborne Division to DZ “O” near Ste. Mère Église.

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By: ozplane - 7th June 2008 at 11:22

Not aviation, but in answer to the original query, there was one of the pumps used in the PLUTO (Pipe line under the ocean) operation in the Land Warfare Hall at Duxford. I think that should count as significant as without the fuel the whole thing would have come to a rapid halt. My interest is that my father helped to set it up on Day 2 of the landings.

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By: Dave Homewood - 7th June 2008 at 11:13

flyingcloggie, it’s well known and documented that ML407 was active and scored the first kill plus had a hand in the second kill on D Day. Right down to the fact that pilot Johnny Houlton flew in it again over the beaches on the 50th Anniversary, as well as mentioning it in his book and in documentaries.

Where are you getting your information from? I’ve never heard it before.

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By: blurrkup - 7th June 2008 at 10:28

So howe come that other sources say that she was out with prop damage that day?

Don’t know the answer to that one but the information about the kill that TT found is also on the official website for ML407, scrolll down to the bottom.

http://www.ml407.co.uk/pages/main.html

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By: merkle - 7th June 2008 at 09:19

piper cub

I am sure mr Ken Wakefields piper cub, served in the normandy campaign,
(author of “the blitz then a now”)
I havent seen it in recent years, but i imagine its still flying ?? in USAAF colours

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By: flyingcloggie - 7th June 2008 at 07:21

Thought she was credited with a share in the first kill on D-Day with 485 (Ju88)?

EDIT I was right – see here

http://www.uk-warbirds.net/warbirdhistories.html

TT

So howe come that other sources say that she was out with prop damage that day?

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By: austernj673 - 6th June 2008 at 19:51

My auster 5 served with 430 Sqn RCAF in Normandy from 21 June onwards….

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