April 7, 2008 at 10:54 am
Hi All,
First time on, so am saying hi. My names clive and ive been interested in WW2 Aircraft for as long as i can remember. I have recently started to collect a few bits and pieces. My recent piece has somewhat confused me. It came to a freind along with the plexi glass mid turret dome of a Lanc. I belive it to be some kind of sight, but thats as far as ive got. Would anyone be able to shed any light on this for me?
Kind regards,
Clive.
By: Rocketeer - 19th April 2008 at 09:02
Depends on the amount of rust & how big the part is. 1gal & a recirc pump will do an M2 (the gun, not the tank 😉 )
There’s another company that makes similar stuff under the name of Rusteco.
If there’s no UK distributor etc I may have to call my step bro & have him start importing it… if it’s financially viable.
I use stuff made by Bilt Hamber……
http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/showthread.php?t=66007&highlight=bilt
By: mike currill - 19th April 2008 at 08:25
Agreed, CD, ’tisn’t very ‘soldier-proof’. However, notice the two lugs on it, could be for ease of mounting and removal on the gun mount or chassis, or perhaps for a collimator. Our people would have come up with it by now if it were an aviation piece; my guess is still related to gun laying.
Had no credibility here before, so nothing to lose!
SoG
Of course it isn’t sqaddieproof, even things designed to be sqauddieproof aren’t.:D
By: Arabella-Cox - 15th April 2008 at 22:14
Well you never know, its possible it could be. Im still baffled, but i think we maybe getting there.The rust remover looks promicing, im going to try and get some and give it a go.
Cheers again for all your suggestions, please keep them coming.
All the best,
Clive.:eek:
By: galdri - 11th April 2008 at 10:11
I think might just be what it is!
By: SadOleGit - 11th April 2008 at 10:00
Next daft suggestion – a Royal Observer Corps “Post Instrument” – which gave the Observer a grid position, height and direction of an aircraft?
Sorry, can’t let this go away; fascinated.
SoG
By: ZRX61 - 10th April 2008 at 23:51
There’s quite a few before/after pics on the site & I think they said how much of the stuff they’d used.
By: Creaking Door - 10th April 2008 at 23:40
Thanks, I guessed there would be a few ‘variables’…..I think I’d better just get some and try it! 🙂
By: ZRX61 - 10th April 2008 at 23:31
How long does this stuff last when you start using it?
Do you know of a supplier in the UK?
Depends on the amount of rust & how big the part is. 1gal & a recirc pump will do an M2 (the gun, not the tank 😉 )
There’s another company that makes similar stuff under the name of Rusteco.
If there’s no UK distributor etc I may have to call my step bro & have him start importing it… if it’s financially viable.
By: Arabella-Cox - 10th April 2008 at 22:11
Hi All,
Many thanks for all your replies. A interesting array of ideas. Im still baffled lol.
Please do keep them coming. Oh yes, the guy who sent details of the rust remover, cheers for that, as if i can obtain some it will help with my main collecting area ‘ordnance’ and this thing would look grand as well.
Thanks again to everyone,please do keep the ideas coming.
Best regards,
Clive.
By: SadOleGit - 9th April 2008 at 15:03
Agreed, CD, ’tisn’t very ‘soldier-proof’. However, notice the two lugs on it, could be for ease of mounting and removal on the gun mount or chassis, or perhaps for a collimator. Our people would have come up with it by now if it were an aviation piece; my guess is still related to gun laying.
Had no credibility here before, so nothing to lose!
SoG
By: Creaking Door - 9th April 2008 at 14:42
Looks a bit ‘fragile’ for the British Army…..field guns are hewn out of solid steel by Vulcan himself…
…even the beverage holders are cast-iron! 😀
By: SadOleGit - 9th April 2008 at 14:34
Forgive an uneduated guess, but I think I may be sticking my neck out to say what others suspect… this is a clinometer mounting from the gun laying sight of an artillery field piece? Air Ministry’s opinion seems to have more in the way of provenance than mine however, and he thinks not gun.
Best wishes,
SoG
By: Creaking Door - 9th April 2008 at 12:08
I’ve used this stuff & it does what they claim.
How long does this stuff last when you start using it?
Do you know of a supplier in the UK?
By: ZRX61 - 9th April 2008 at 01:21
ah, here we go, check out the before/after pics:
http://www.missbelvedere.com/before-after.asp
I’ve used this stuff & it does what they claim.
(not affliated with em in any way etc)
By: ZRX61 - 9th April 2008 at 01:11
This stuff:
http://www.ultraoneusa.com/shopdisplayproducts.asp?id=10&cat=Safest+Rust+Remover
Would have the steel part looking like new in fairly short order.
By: Creaking Door - 9th April 2008 at 01:00
I’ve seen photos of air-gunners being trained in aircraft turrets firing at clay-pigeons with the turret machine-guns replaced by shotguns.
Just a thought but could this be a turret mounting for a shotgun?
By: mike currill - 8th April 2008 at 22:29
Only a guess but could it be some sort of rigging aid, perhaps fitting onto something solid like a fuselage longeron when an airframe was being assembled or repaired, trued up. Or alternatively an adaptor used when setting up fixed gun mounting.
Looks too weak as a gun mount itself but almost to well built for a rigging tool. Baffled.
Richard
If it is too solidly built for a rigging tool that would fit well with British aircraft construction of the time as most of our aircraft were overengineered. Even as late as the 50s that was the case and was a contributory factor to the demise of Beagle. Because they were built so tough they were heavier and more expensive than the competition.
By: Arabella-Cox - 8th April 2008 at 21:24
Ive been sitting thinking about this item and still it puzzles me.
Just a guess, could it be some kind of emergency sight? Most of the larger set ups in Lancs etc had some kind of reflector sight didnt they? Could this be a replacement if that was damaged in combat, so to speak. As i said, just a guess.
Regards,
Clive.:)
By: pogno - 8th April 2008 at 20:41
Only a guess but could it be some sort of rigging aid, perhaps fitting onto something solid like a fuselage longeron when an airframe was being assembled or repaired, trued up. Or alternatively an adaptor used when setting up fixed gun mounting.
Looks too weak as a gun mount itself but almost to well built for a rigging tool. Baffled.
Richard
By: Arabella-Cox - 8th April 2008 at 13:34
Hi There,
Its quite a lump,it measure approx 13 inches along sight piece. The big alloy wheel would have once moved the foresight backwards and forwards.The only mark i can make out on the graduation strip is poss 330000, but this is very faint due to corrosion.There appears to be markings on the alloy frame,though faint seem to read NO ? AL. The alloy frame is quite sturdy.
Hope this helps a little more.
All the best,
Clive.