Revised UK ANO – EASA Permits to Fly

Had an idea it was too good to be true!!!

For those still frothing at the mouth, you may wish to know that the 31 March 2008 amendment to CAP 747 makes the Flug Werke 190 an Annex II or non-EASA aircraft. That means it is subject to UK national legislation if certificated here. In turn, that means that the CAA can impose any rules it likes from its veritable mountain of paperwork, irrespective of the status of certification of the type in any other country. Whilst the aircraft can still be granted a UK Permit to Fly, there might be some hoops to jump through to prove to the satisfaction of the CAA that the aircraft is airworthy. They always look very, very closely at the first aircraft of a type when presented for certification in the UK.

It certainly will!! It will, for example, mean that the Flug Werke FW-190 will get a permit to fly in the UK based on it´s German permit.

I am not so sure you are correct.

fair enough 🙂 im sure one day someone with enough money and time will make a real effort to put one back in the air here, bugatti veyron of the sky!!!

ill give you a chance to explain this blashphemy before we kick you off 😀 haha, what dont you like about it? 🙂

– i just thought i would sneak back in to answer you!!- Its a looker, i must admit, but lets start with the engines, you get a fire in the lower one, and you would VERY likely get a fire in the upper one, too- thats not good!!- and the wing!!!- why didn’t they mount it lower???- that way you could carry stores under the wing!!!- and as was mentioned, its endurance was laughable- and to top it off, it had a worse safety record than the F-104!!- thats why they’re not allowed to fly them here!!

EASA permits

EASA permits are valid in all states. National permits are still national and need an overflight permission from LGW or the country you plan to visit. No cause for excitement, nothing has changed other than the introduction of an EASA permit last summer for a very few types EASA has accepted. (We have written “flight conditions” for the YAK 55 and 18T so these LY registered a/c now fly in UK again) However by 2010 there will be no Annex 2 a/c category, so presumably all permits will have to be EASA types but there is a lot of “protecting of interests” and I would assume that some states will still not recoginise the compitance of others in maintaining a/c. regards, mark

If Oxcart can’t or won’t answer you I will. Too limited endurance, a pig to work on. A lovely aircraft in spite of that.
I have one plea to make-Please CAA let us fly Lightnings and Shackletons in this country.

ill give you a chance to explain this blashphemy before we kick you off 😀 haha, what dont you like about it? 🙂

always thought it was a terrible design myself- this is where i get banned from the site!!

ahhh the E.E Lightning, british historic aviation’s forbidden fruit 🙁

Me-262, for me!

I had the same thought as everyone else, Lightnings.

DAmn. The smell of Lightnings has faded.

Cheers BR – I struggle with the CAA website, letalone EASA’s nightmare…

i suppose of course that is if he could afford to fuel them at the huge amount of stops they would have to make to get here and back! 🙁

It certainly will!! It will, for example, mean that the Flug Werke FW-190 will get a permit to fly in the UK based on it´s German permit. The guys at Duxford knew this was comming when they registered the FW-190:)

Sorry to bring this up again, just wanted to make sure it wasn’t an early April Fools joke!- can anyone confirm that there is now no reason why the Flug Werk FW-190 cannot now fly in the UK??

Before everyone starts frothing at the mouth, check out Articles 11 and 12 (from memory) which regulate the way the CAA can issue a Permit to Fly to non-EASA and EASA aircraft types.

I presume the original quoted clause refers to an individual aircraft being permitted to fly in UK rather than the type as whole.

Before everyone starts frothing at the mouth, check out Articles 11 and 12 (from memory) which regulate the way the CAA can issue a Permit to Fly to non-EASA and EASA aircraft types.

Lindy – that is probably the only thing I can find on the EASA site! CAA is not so bad, you just need to understand the departments and their responsibilities before you can navigate the site 😉

I guess the above regs may now help Herr E Pleine and his German collection.

Here’s a list of EASA Members

DAmn. The smell of Lightnings has faded.

Cheers BR – I struggle with the CAA website, letalone EASA’s nightmare…

Here’s a list of EASA Members

Is South Africa subscribed to EASA yet? Or does the member state constitute ONLY those in Europe. (I only ask as Singapore airlines is EASA 145 capable, as are a few in the Arabian Gulf….)