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Mosquito for BBMF?

I’ve just finished watching the excellent new DVD about the BBMF’S 50th Anniversary and was curious about a comment made by Al Pinner.

He’s talking to the Doolittle veterans at Duxford last year about the aircraft in the flight and one gentleman asks, ‘no Mosquito?’ Al Pinner then says,’no sir we were going to get one about 10 years ago but unfortunately the aircraft crashed’………. News to me, think it would have happened?

Great DVD though, highly recommended.

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By: RF769 - 19th November 2007 at 21:39

There is a 1/24th scale Mosquito kit on the market, have a look here:
http://www.heritageaviationmodelsltd.com/124_kits.htm
Check out the big Vulcan to on the page. Most scary is the 1/24th Lancaster, its huge.

Ollie,
Thanks for that. Now I just found my Christmas present.. 😀

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By: ollieholmes - 18th November 2007 at 08:44

Fingers crossed for 1/24 scale.. 😀 (wishful thinking…but a bigger one than the 1/48-scale I have would be nice…:) )

There is a 1/24th scale Mosquito kit on the market, have a look here:
http://www.heritageaviationmodelsltd.com/124_kits.htm
Check out the big Vulcan to on the page. Most scary is the 1/24th Lancaster, its huge.

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By: JesseJames - 18th November 2007 at 08:30

Cossie-Mossie-

I’ve just finished watching the excellent new DVD about the BBMF’S 50th Anniversary and was curious about a comment made by Al Pinner.

He’s talking to the Doolittle veterans at Duxford last year about the aircraft in the flight and one gentleman asks, ‘no Mosquito?’ Al Pinner then says,’no sir we were going to get one about 10 years ago but unfortunately the aircraft crashed’………. News to me, think it would have happened?

Great DVD though, highly recommended.

Hi there, I heard that the Mossie at Cosford was once considered for giving
to the BBMF, but I never heard any more of it. Maybe the glue issue was
again at the front of the problem. Now before things start, I heard it from
a member of the public who was at the airshow at Elvington this year, who
know when it tried to rain on the Sunday and we, yes “we” were drying out
in the YAM main hanger in front of their fab “wooden-wonder”.

JJ.

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By: WJ244 - 17th November 2007 at 18:09

Sorry folks I seem to have caused a bit of confusion here. The Mosquito measuring job for Revell was several years ago now and the resulting kit has been and gone. I think it was 1/48 scale but I am not 100% sure as I never did get to see one.
I did get a nice Revell pro-modeller T Shirt (my other half reckoned this just proved her suspicions that I have always been an old pro of some kind) and some other bits and pieces but the real bonus was that I got to spend a couple of days clambering over Mosquitos at Hendon and Salisbury Hall (and I know which of the to I would prefer to revisit if I had to do the job again).
I also got Ed to visit Old Warden for a Saturday evening show just to make sure he knew about real aeroplanes (I knew him through being involved in selling scale models of mainly racing cars) but it turned out he was well into old aeroplanes anyway and couldn’t believe that he had never heard of the Shuttleworth Collection.

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By: pagen01 - 17th November 2007 at 17:49

Johanson, there is a difference in letting go some Spitfires or B-17s when there are plenty around, but can you immagine not one example of a Spit flying in the UK, or one B-17 in the US? It would be unimmaginable for the BBMF not to have one Spit, Hurri and Lanc.
Try not to be so simplistic.
In my humble opinion as a not very knowledgable Mossie fan, there really should be an airworthy Mossie here it was a major type for us, and a design that hardly changed from proto to final production, in other words it must have been just right. I know one was lost in tragic circumstances, but it would have been nice for the glass nose one, (to me far more representitive of the combat variants). I know we live in the real world, but all Im saying is it would be nice.

Fouga, that is a fantastic site, I kinda assumed the new Revell Gannet and Lancaster would be based on the Trumpeter and Hasegawa moulds, but actually look better!

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By: Manston Airport - 17th November 2007 at 14:59

Wonder if the BBMF cant get a Mossie they get TFC Bristol Beaufighter?

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By: Fouga23 - 17th November 2007 at 14:38

new gannet also:D Shame it’s not in 1/48:(
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http://www.brazmodels.com/3D%20CAD/3D%20CAD.htm

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By: RF769 - 17th November 2007 at 14:24

So Revell will bring out a Mosquito soon?
The did a completely new Lancaster which will be out now, perhaps they will do a Stirling as well,

Cees

Fingers crossed for 1/24 scale.. 😀 (wishful thinking…but a bigger one than the 1/48-scale I have would be nice…:) )

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By: T J Johansen - 17th November 2007 at 14:08

Ok, for the reason of argument ‘we’ is me and my aviation friends who enjoyed seeing it at displays.
‘we’ think it’s a shame that the doller shouts loudest, and indeed that it nearly always comes down to money. Surely some aviation articles should remain as national heritage, and that a national body could step in and say whether something shouldn’t leave this country, or get scrapped etc.
Maybe ‘we’ is abit old fashioned though.

You mean like “Spitfires are a part of our national heritage and shouldn’t be allowed to be exported”?

I guess a certain Blenheim should have stayed in Canada then instead of going to Duxford?

The B-17 and B-25 at Hendon surely must count as “national heritage material”, and ought to be back in the US.

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By: Cees Broere - 17th November 2007 at 13:27

So Revell will bring out a Mosquito soon?
The did a completely new Lancaster which will be out now, perhaps they will do a Stirling as well,

Cees

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By: WJ244 - 17th November 2007 at 10:48

I visited Salisbury Hall several years ago with a friend who is new products manager at Revell USA and we measured the Mosquitos for a Revell kit and were made very welcome.
We were told that the ex Liverpool Corporation TT35 was being surveyed with ultrasound to find out if the glue was good enough to make it viable as a flyer.
What happened? – Was it an impossible job or was it simply a lack of money.

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By: Firebird - 16th November 2007 at 20:15

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He’s talking to the Doolittle veterans at Duxford last year about the aircraft in the flight and one gentleman asks, ‘no Mosquito?’ Al Pinner then says,’no sir we were going to get one about 10 years ago but unfortunately the aircraft crashed’………. News to me, think it would have happened?

As Creaking Door says, BAe had made the decision to donate RR299 to the BBMF at the end of the 1996 display season……

Alas, and very sadly events conspired against this happening.

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By: J Boyle - 16th November 2007 at 17:04

Also What did the UK get in exchange for the mossie that flew into the Naitonal air useum USA?

Are you talking about the one in the Nat. Museum of the USAF?
That was flyable…as was Kermit Week’s now at the EAA Museum in Wisconsin. Who knows, he might be willing to sell it if the BBMF would operate it as a “national treasure” or such.

IMHO: I would have rather seen the money used on the Vulcan going towards a flyable Mossie for the BBMF…nothing against the Vulcan, it remains my most vivid airshow memories, I certainly wish them well…just my opinion as I’d rather see a Mosquito fly for decades with the RAF rather than a Vulcan fly for 10-15 years…more value for money.

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By: Bruce - 16th November 2007 at 16:58

Why can’t they have taken one from Dehav museum and rebuilt it to fly? Also What did the UK get in exchange for the mossie that flew into the Naitonal air useum USA?

a) Cos its ours – see my reply on the other thread!

b) Money!

Seriously, see my lengthy reply on the thread mentioned above

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By: markstringer - 16th November 2007 at 16:14

Be interesting to see if there will be another project once the mk xvi spitfire is completed by fluffy and the boys. Mosquito perhaps?

wishful thinking…………….:diablo:

How is The mk xvi fluffy?

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By: mike currill - 16th November 2007 at 16:05

It’s a pity that entusiasm can’t buy fixtures and fittings and equipment needed to help these projects along. I could have wet dreams all night dreaming of what we could have flying if that were the case.

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By: Cees Broere - 16th November 2007 at 14:40

Ok, for the reason of argument ‘we’ is me and my aviation friends who enjoyed seeing it at displays.
‘we’ think it’s a shame that the doller shouts loudest, and indeed that it nearly always comes down to money. Surely some aviation articles should remain as national heritage, and that a national body could step in and say whether something shouldn’t leave this country, or get scrapped etc.
Maybe ‘we’ is abit old fashioned though.

I fully agree, it’s all a matter of money. Enthusiasm helps but isn’t strong enough to pay for such things. There seems to be a certain lack of “drive” from official sides to close some existing gaps.

To be realistic, the Stirling and Whitley Projects have been initiated by private individuals such as Elliott, who through their enthusiasm and love for the subject, have set themselves a task to bring back these types from extinction. This is a painfully slow process which takes decades at the current pace.

If the National Lottery could provide some much needed funds to boost these projects, and as a result a larger number of workers or organisations could be put in use to speed things up. Even if a substantial wreck was found it would still take a lot of resources (such as the Canadian Halifax project which took a decade) to finish.

Not slagging off the project but look at what happened to the Vulcan, this can be done to other (and perhaps more historic) projects as well, but money is still the key factor. We still have a Hampden, Whitely, Barracuda, Stirling, Albemarle, Skua to finish.

But enthusiasm alone is not enough, but it’s a start in the right direction.
My two cents
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By: Peter - 16th November 2007 at 14:17

keeping O.T of Mossies

Why can’t they have taken one from Dehav museum and rebuilt it to fly? Also What did the UK get in exchange for the mossie that flew into the Naitonal air useum USA?

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By: pagen01 - 16th November 2007 at 13:53

Ok, for the reason of argument ‘we’ is me and my aviation friends who enjoyed seeing it at displays.
‘we’ think it’s a shame that the doller shouts loudest, and indeed that it nearly always comes down to money. Surely some aviation articles should remain as national heritage, and that a national body could step in and say whether something shouldn’t leave this country, or get scrapped etc.
Maybe ‘we’ is abit old fashioned though.

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By: Cees Broere - 16th November 2007 at 13:17

I think it was a real shame that we let the airworthy glass nose one (B.35?) go to the States, that would have been perfect for the BBMF.
Are there any potential Mossie to the air projects at the moment?

Correct me if I’m wrong but who is “we”?

Nobody was interested in her when Kermit Weeks paid 100.000 pounds for her. If anyone (or “we”) in the UK had bothered to reach inside some big pockets at the time she would probably still be flying over here.

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