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Bomber Command Memorial?

I see that there is some movement to the idea of Bomber Command having a memorial. (I know that there is one in Lincoln Cathedral.) I assume they are now looking to have something more substantial erected before all the old crew members have passed on.

Being a Canadian resident for the past 50+ years I had not realised that the the efforts of Bomber Command had never been recognised and that no substantial memorial exists. I feel that this oversight should be rectified as Bomber Command were the only means of Britain hitting back for the first few years of the war. No doubt the ‘revisionists’ will oppose this!

I received a copy of this e-mail:

Dear All,

I recently visited the museum at Metheringham Airfield, an old WWII bomber base which housed just the one squadron of 15 to 16 Lancasters. It was only operational for 2 years, but in that time, the squadron lost 57 aircraft! The crews were just some of the unsung heroes who never returned from their missions over Germany. It came as something of a surprise therefore, to find out that there is no memorial – anywhere – for Bomber Command or the 55,000 aircrew who were lost.

We thank and glorify the “Few” – and rightly so – but should there not be some sign of the gratitude we owe the “Many”?

In this day of political correctness and European federalisation, the Government has stated that it is “not considering” a separate memorial for the Bomber Command aircrew who made the ultimate sacrifice for our freedom.

If you think that is unreasonable, please find the time to petition the PM by clicking on the link below and add your name to the petition.

Norry Bell

http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/Bomberboys/

Let’s get some names on that list!

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By: Lincoln - 18th November 2007 at 20:28

Where would it go in Lincolnshire though?
Conningsby perhaps?
Waddington?
East Kirkby?
A bigger one in the grounds of Lincoln Cathedral?
One of the many ex RAF bases?
The possibilities are endless.

Coningsby could be a good place, it could go in the car park for the BBMF, at least it would get some protection lol 😀

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By: exmpa - 18th November 2007 at 18:34

Bomber Command Memorial

There should be a Bomber Command memorial. It is an omission that must be corrected, whatever the chosen location. As to that location, I flew from those old bomber airfields in the 1960s and ’70s. Our aircraft bore no squadron markings in those days on centralised servicing, but we did have the badge of the City and County of Lincoln on the fin.

It was also a significant period as by 1970 the war had been over 25 years. Many of those who had served at those airfields had gone home and picked up their lives again and now with the family off their hands they came back. We had a steady stream of Australians, Canadians and many others turning up at the guardroom asking if they could come and see the old places once more. After a few quick checks a duty crew from one of the squadrons would be despatched to pick them up and escort them around. They turned up not only at the active stations but at the other ones, I met a couple in Metheringham, where I lived at the time.

It was a privilege to meet these men, to be there as they remembered, perhaps to help them lay their ghosts. To have one’s wife tell me that he had never spoken of his time in Bomber Command before. To see the visible emotion that followed when they were taken into the hangar to see
PA474, then based at Waddington. I know that this occurred at other stations outside Lincolnshire, I recall the Canadian reunions at Middleton St George. However my point is that it was to the airfields that they returned, not London, not Runnymede.

Lincolnshire is synonymous with the RAF and the links still exist today. It is there that the memorial should be situated.

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By: WG-13 - 18th November 2007 at 12:29

Bomber Boys Memorial

More debate here;
Bomber Boys Memorial forum

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By: landraver - 18th November 2007 at 12:19

duly signed time they woke up and smelt the coffee

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By: wv838 - 18th November 2007 at 01:19

Signed with pleasure. And I pressed the ‘sign’ button very firmly too.

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By: BlueRobin - 18th November 2007 at 00:33

I was thinking a combined and accessible Allied RAF/(8th)USAAF bomber memorial might be good.

I do hope the old arguments about bombing don’t resurface to the extent that it spoils the core issue about the crews.

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By: Der - 17th November 2007 at 23:11

Signed.

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By: PeterW - 17th November 2007 at 20:29

Disagree Dean – as a national memorial it should be in the nation’s capitol where due homage can be paid rather where just the locals will see it and veterans might struggle to get to.

Roger Smith.

It should be in London where it will have a higher profile, similar to the Battle of Britain memorial on the embankment.

I think at the moment the statue of “Bomber” Harris outside St Clements has become the unofficial memorial to Bomber Command in London.

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By: Lincoln - 16th November 2007 at 18:26

lol yeah they are, it’s the “Lincoln eye” at the moment 😀

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By: Hatton - 16th November 2007 at 17:52

The Lincolnshire Echo had a field day with it lol Although it was only like that for a week or two.

yes – they’re always outraged by something….:D

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By: Lincoln - 16th November 2007 at 17:40

Yes it was partly that, however when I first went (took and elderly relative of mine) it wasn’t just fenced off, it was behind what I describe as a plethera of furniture and bit and bobs 😀

The Lincolnshire Echo had a field day with it lol Although it was only like that for a week or two.

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By: Hatton - 16th November 2007 at 15:44

That’s a good point.
There is already the Lincoln Cathedral one as has been stated, and although at first it shared it’s position with a storage area *rolls eyes* it was clear when I went to see it it.

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to be fair to the Cathedral, I believe – and correct me if Im wrong – that the reason it was behind the barriers is that work was not 100% finished on the deans eye rose window which is overhead and that the area at the foot was a work area and kept free of people for safety reasons. If people asked specially they could quietly look under supervision if it was practical.

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By: DeanK - 16th November 2007 at 13:48

In the UK, is there a USAAF memorial for their wartime air forces?

There’s the Counting the Cost Memorial Sculpture at Duxford – very moving that.

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By: BlueRobin - 16th November 2007 at 13:34

In the UK, is there a USAAF memorial for their wartime air forces?

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By: DeanK - 16th November 2007 at 13:29

Disagree Dean – as a national memorial it should be in the nation’s capitol where due homage can be paid rather where just the locals will see it and veterans might struggle to get to.

Roger Smith.

An interesting thought Roger, but I was working on the premise that a lot of the veterans ‘are’ locals and would maybe struggle getting to the capital! That maybe an incorrect assumption on my part, as I don’t have the stats – it would be interesting to know what percentage of bomber crews actually came from the Lincolnshire & Yorkshire areas. My Uncle lived in Lincolnshire but was stationed at Breighton in Yorkshire; albeit very briefly, before sadly becoming one of the 55,573.

There’s quite a lengthy thread on the debate over on PPRuNe http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthread.php?t=296590

Some veterans have suggested either Lincolnshire or the ‘National’ Memorial Arboretum in Alrewas. One veteran was quoted as saying “When I think of Bomber Command, I think of Lincolnshire!” A sentiment, I’m sure, that is echoed by many.

I can see this being a lengthy one.

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By: Lincoln - 16th November 2007 at 11:03

Disagree Dean – as a national memorial it should be in the nation’s capitol where due homage can be paid rather where just the locals will see it and veterans might struggle to get to.

Roger Smith.

That’s a good point.
There is already the Lincoln Cathedral one as has been stated, and although at first it shared it’s position with a storage area *rolls eyes* it was clear when I went to see it it.

So those who make the journey up here get to see the cathedral as well as the memorial, plus many of the WWII air fields (at least the ones I know) have their own memorials, the East Kirkby, Fiskerton, Metheringham, Woodhall and Bardney ones are particulally nice.

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By: cdp206 - 16th November 2007 at 10:47

Duly signed.

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By: RPSmith - 16th November 2007 at 10:29

….Think it should be up here though, close to all the Bomber Command stations in Lincolnshire and Yorkshire. Dean.

Disagree Dean – as a national memorial it should be in the nation’s capitol where due homage can be paid rather where just the locals will see it and veterans might struggle to get to.

Roger Smith.

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By: critter592 - 15th November 2007 at 23:20

Signed, with pleasure.

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By: DeanK - 15th November 2007 at 22:37

I couldn’t agree more – duly signed.

Think it should be up here though, close to all the Bomber Command stations in Lincolnshire and Yorkshire.

Dean.

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