November 1, 2007 at 7:31 pm
I may be attending a talk on Amy Johnson soon given by Chris Parker. Which has got me thinking, I know something of Earhart but little about Johnson. I have to confess without looking on the Internet, I couldn’t distinguish the two.
Here are then two women only separated by the Atlantic Ocean and 6 years in age. They both came to aviation in the same era and succumbed to the water. Was this merely coincidence that two female pilots should develop at about the same time? Did one influence the other? Did they ever meet?
Having searched the forum, they appear to be a barely-touched subject.
By: Pondskater - 7th November 2007 at 14:33
Just spotted this on the Guardian’s website:
The Guardian was using the article as one of several to highlight their new digital archive – so they must still recognise Earhart’s importance.
Being the original article it is a fascinating insight into how Earhart was viewed at that time. I was particularly touched by the paper warning her of the dangers of trans-oceanic flight. But it was only a few years later that the first transatlantic airlines were starting.
I wonder if TIGHAR will ever get proof of what happened to her?
By: adrian_gray - 5th November 2007 at 09:43
And if your masculinity can take it, it should still be on “listen Again”…
Last Thursday’s “Women’s Hour” on Radio 4 had an interview with Moira Johnson, who was a leading light of the Yorkshire Gliding Club in the 1930s.
(IIRC, by the way, Diana Barnato-Walker was the first and, I believe, the only person to bring a Typhoon back after a major structural failure)
Adrian
By: QldSpitty - 5th November 2007 at 07:16
There were plenty more…
Not very well remembered but these girls did their bit…
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/femail/article.html?in_article_id=481464&in_page_id=1879
By: Dave Homewood - 4th November 2007 at 23:37
A couple of facts about Amy Johnson – the Jack Hylton Orchestra recorded a song about her called Amy in 1930. You can download it here
http://www.jackhylton.com/
Go to Downloads and then ‘A’ and look down the list for Amy.
Also, though her death was mysterious for many decades it was finally revealed she was killed by a Royal Navy ship’s propellor! You can hear all about it in the Radio 4 ‘Making History’ programme archived here:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/history/making_history/making_history_spring2003.shtml
By: Flying-A - 4th November 2007 at 23:16
Regarding Amy Johnson, Roy Conyers Nesbit presented a convincing explanation of her demise in the book Failed To Return.
As for Amelia Earhart, new clues about her disappearance popped up ever few years. It’s possible that someday those clues might come together in a plausible theory.
By: scotavia - 4th November 2007 at 14:52
Tv Movie
I have a video The Amy Johnson story, television film,90 minutes,producer Innes Lloyd starringHarriet Walter and Patrick Troughton(Lord Rothermere)
A quite good film.
Start video number 1005, not listed on IMDB
By: mike currill - 4th November 2007 at 14:41
Funny, when I was a kid Amy Johnson definitely seemed to be among the pantheon of ‘great Britons’ like Captain Scott, Nelson, Florence Nightingale and so on. I remember seeing the biopic, visiting ‘Jason’ in the Science Museum, and making the cut-out 3D picture of her DH Moth from the back of a ‘Shreddies’ packet all before the age of 7. Was this me or did she go out of fashion??
…those ‘Shreddies’ things were great 🙂
It is sad that these greats are now all but forgotten. Having said that, it appears to suit our present government quite well as it ties in nicely with their efforts to play down our heroes and heroines.
By: JDK - 4th November 2007 at 00:57
I may be attending a talk on Amy Johnson soon given by Chris Parker. Which has got me thinking, I know something of Earhart but little about Johnson. I have to confess without looking on the Internet, I couldn’t distinguish the two.
Ah, the overwhelming effect of the US driven world media. As XN said, a generation ago, Johnson was well known in the UK (and Commonwealth) and Earhart hardly at all.
You can’t see Earhart’s Lockheed 10, but you can see ‘Jason’. Go to the Science Museum, Lambeth. And:
Hanna Reitsch
http://www.ctie.monash.edu.au/hargrave/reitsch.html
Jacqueline Cochran
http://www.wingsacrossamerica.us/wasp/jacqueline_cochran.htm
Nancy Bird
http://www.ctie.monash.edu.au/hargrave/nancy_bird_walton_bio.html
Regiments of Soviet women…
http://www.ctie.monash.edu.au/hargrave/soviet_women_pilots.html
Jean Batten
http://www.ctie.monash.edu.au/hargrave/jean_batten_bio.html
Harriet Quimby:
http://www.harrietquimby.org/
And:
http://www.ninety-nines.org/99s.html
No excuses for iggorance. 😀
By: BlueRobin - 4th November 2007 at 00:20
XN923, if I were a television producer, I would having read your comments probably begin commissioning a documentary about now. There’s definite scope there for a subject that been little covered at least for my generation.
By: topgun regect - 2nd November 2007 at 17:34
Ok thanks, I wonder do they have a monument of some kind to her at Squires Gate?.
Regards Phil.
Theres is no statue or memorial to Amy Johnson at Blackpool that I know of. But there is a road named after her (Amy Johnson Way) as the entrance to a major retail park on the airport site.
Martin
By: XN923 - 2nd November 2007 at 16:31
Funny, when I was a kid Amy Johnson definitely seemed to be among the pantheon of ‘great Britons’ like Captain Scott, Nelson, Florence Nightingale and so on. I remember seeing the biopic, visiting ‘Jason’ in the Science Museum, and making the cut-out 3D picture of her DH Moth from the back of a ‘Shreddies’ packet all before the age of 7. Was this me or did she go out of fashion??
…those ‘Shreddies’ things were great 🙂
By: northeagle - 2nd November 2007 at 11:52
Hi,
Amy and Amelia met on more than one occasion. Photo’s were taken in 1933 after Amy’s accident in America.
Best Wishes,
Robert.
By: Bruggen 130 - 2nd November 2007 at 11:49
Hi,
According to Midge Gillies: ‘Amy Johnson Queen Of The Air’, it was Squires Gate.Best Wishes.
Robert.
Ok thanks, I wonder do they have a monument of some kind to her at Squires Gate?.
Regards Phil.
By: northeagle - 2nd November 2007 at 11:35
Hi,
According to Midge Gillies: ‘Amy Johnson Queen Of The Air’, it was Squires Gate.
Best Wishes.
Robert.
By: Bruggen 130 - 2nd November 2007 at 10:54
Hi.
Did Amy Johnson take off from the old Stanley Park Airfield on her last
flight or was it Squires Gate?, I can’t seem to find out.
Regards Phil.
By: wieesso - 1st November 2007 at 20:13
The Purdue University also has two telegrams
http://e-archives.lib.purdue.edu/cdm4/item_viewer.php?CISOROOT=/earhart&CISOPTR=716&CISOBOX=1&REC=3
http://e-archives.lib.purdue.edu/cdm4/document.php?CISOROOT=/earhart&CISOPTR=374&REC=2
‘In 1929 the Lockheed Company presented Earhart with a brand-new Vega, a new type of single-wing plane that was also flown by Amy Johnson and Beryl Markham.’
http://gale.cengage.com/free_resources/whm/bio/earhart_a.htm
‘The disappearance of Amelia Earhart in 1937 during an attempted round-the-world flight, discouraged Amy from further record-breaking attempts, which were, in any case, losing their popular appeal as flying became more routine.’
http://www.channel4.com/history/microsites/R/real_lives/amy_johnson.html
By: wieesso - 1st November 2007 at 20:08
just to start with…
they must have met around 1930 – otherwise it is/was an early paintshop pic
http://e-archives.lib.purdue.edu/cdm4/item_viewer.php?CISOROOT=/earhart&CISOPTR=674&CISOBOX=1&REC=1
Martin
By: Lindy's Lad - 1st November 2007 at 20:02
There is a statue of Amy Johnson outside Prospect Shpping centre in Hull. (East Yorkshire lass).