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I finally got Hendon sussed!!!!

After two failed attempts I have at last got some half decent pictures at Hendon, some strange looks and lots of self slandering here are the results…..

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http://img488.imageshack.us/img488/475/eurofighter02op8.jpg

http://img488.imageshack.us/img488/3195/he16201on5.jpg

http://img488.imageshack.us/img488/1812/ju87stukka04up6.jpg

http://img488.imageshack.us/img488/9593/bristolmercuryviiia01ka4.jpg

http://img465.imageshack.us/img465/5938/bristolf2b02mn7.jpg

http://img488.imageshack.us/img488/6545/bristolblenheim02ln2.jpg

http://img481.imageshack.us/img481/3994/bristolbeaufighter01ff5.jpg

http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/9738/boultonpauldefient1n167ow4.jpg

http://img482.imageshack.us/img482/2115/b25mitchel01vx3.jpg

http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/281/b1701bq4.jpg

http://img465.imageshack.us/img465/8941/b1705ui9.jpg

http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/3338/lferaftdorama01eq4.jpg

http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/9068/mosquito02rx2.jpg

http://img481.imageshack.us/img481/1429/messerschmittbf11003bi4.jpg

http://img481.imageshack.us/img481/6474/wellibomber02ae9.jpg

http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/1170/wellibomber04lg7.jpg

Lastly some berk got in the way of this one:diablo: 😀 !!!!!!

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By: pagen01 - 17th September 2007 at 22:52

I think when you take longer exposure pictures it allows the influence from the sodium lamps in the building to show in the picture. This is a greenish effect that you get in alot of hangar and museum pics. At least this can be corrected with digital technology.

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By: Graham Adlam - 17th September 2007 at 21:12

Great pictures, I have never been to Hendon, what a place need to go soon.:D

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By: FMK.6JOHN - 17th September 2007 at 17:04

Afternoon all,

Thans for all the comments, I think my problem at Hendon regards colurs was that I had my camera set on ‘white balance auto’.

On some shots the cam must have got confused and picked the wrong type of white balance so maybe this would be something to look at doing manually next time.

I only have an old version of PS (V.7) so had a little mess around with the colour balance…….

Before…

http://img124.imageshack.us/img124/5983/baclightningxs925081si0.jpg

After…

http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/2379/baclightningxs92508ez0.jpg

Comments/hints/tips all welcome.

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By: pagen01 - 17th September 2007 at 13:51

Excellent pics there John.
Well now that you have mastered Hendon your next mission impossible, should you choose to accept, can be FAAM Yeoviltons carrier deck! Good luck!

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By: daniel-k - 17th September 2007 at 11:46

http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/9190/baclightningxs925andme0at4.jpg

What’s that thing on your head?
A think-tank?

(sorry, couldn’t resist) :p

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By: Moggy C - 17th September 2007 at 11:29

my understanding is that she is unique being the only 109g to have flown with her original Db engine. is this the truth?

Er no…. All 109Gs flew with their original DB engine at some time or another :p 😀

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By: ALBERT ROSS - 16th September 2007 at 22:53

Anything other than ‘hand held’ cameras seem to hold some mystique for these museums. I’m surprised Hendon hasn’t followed the National Trust who bans photography inside its buildings altogether, so they can capitalise on sales of their own photos and postcards. Why on earth would anyone need a ‘tripod pass’ ? Reminds me of a friend that got arrested at a Mildenhall Air show in the ’80s for using a stepladder to photograph an SR-71 Blackbird…now I ask you?? Meanwhile, I have also colour-corrected one of your pics for you John, using Microsoft Picture Editor. Well done!

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By: flyernzl - 16th September 2007 at 22:22

The requirement for a ‘tripod pass’ usually reflects the fear that, if your photographs are too good, you will sell them commercially and make money out of them thus depriving the museum of income.
I was at Hendon in 1991, and used a tripod with no problems. Conversely, when at the Science Museum in Hong Kong, production of a tripod (after taking several shots of the Cathay DC-3 hand-held without any dispute) literally caused armed security guards to emerge from the woodwork and forcible ejection.

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By: Vital Spark - 16th September 2007 at 22:04

Great pictures…

Now that you have managed to accomplish clear pictures, Maybe the extra step into colour corection will complete your bliss
http://img47.imageshack.us/img47/846/westlandwallace01lx0nh1.jpg

http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/8585/bristolmercuryviiia01kata3.jpg

I used the colorcast removal tool in PhotShop Elements to get rid of the yellow light.

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By: Nashio966 - 16th September 2007 at 19:24

i think its sad

the last time i saw black 6 before hendon was in the air at DX, i think that this is a terrible shame, could she fly again if enough money was injected. my understanding is that she is unique being the only 109g to have flown with her original Db engine. is this the truth?

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By: FMK.6JOHN - 16th September 2007 at 18:21

Humm. tripod pass… i got all the way round hendon including the battle of britain hall without a pass, i was just lining up the lightning when some “lovely polite” (grumpy) member of staff informed me i needed a pass, no-one else seemed to even care, numerous other staff including the front desk bothered to tell me i needed one. Checked the terms for photography the next time i went and on the web site and there is no mention of the requirement for the pass.

Read the section about admissions policy:D

http://www.rafmuseum.org.uk/london/planavisit/opening_admission.cfm

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By: PU-597 - 16th September 2007 at 17:55

Humm. tripod pass… i got all the way round hendon including the battle of britain hall without a pass, i was just lining up the lightning when some “lovely polite” (grumpy) member of staff informed me i needed a pass, no-one else seemed to even care, numerous other staff including the front desk bothered to tell me i needed one. Checked the terms for photography the next time i went and on the web site and there is no mention of the requirement for the pass.

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By: FMK.6JOHN - 16th September 2007 at 17:55

Peter,

I afraid it is only a mock up of a ground power connection.

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By: Peter - 16th September 2007 at 17:49

canberra??

Whats the cord running to the canberra hatch for? are they working on it or have they got electrics running on the aircraft?

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By: FMK.6JOHN - 16th September 2007 at 17:45

A few more from Friday…….

http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/4615/messerschmittbf109g08wq4.jpg

http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/3941/messerschmittme26201ra4.jpg

http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/6678/havard01ot4.jpg

http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/8020/crew01ki8.jpg

http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/3759/canberra01ve4.jpg

http://img49.imageshack.us/img49/613/boultonpauldefient1n167jg8.jpg

http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/5243/b1703bf9.jpg

http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/3397/avroanson01ro0.jpg

Favourite jet of the day has to be the ME262, it just had that something that kept me captivated for a while.

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By: FMK.6JOHN - 16th September 2007 at 15:55

Thanks all for the comments,

I had no real problems this time, when I entered the museum I was handed a tripod pass before I even opened my trap to ask so was happy with the service.

My one major gripe was the mezanine deck in the Sunderland Hall was shut yet again, I asked and was told it was that there was not enough staff to open it (this was while five of them were stood in the background chatting about what they were having for lunch:mad: ).

Nashio, tripods in Hendon are an absolute must if you want to get good shots, I was ranging from 1/16th of a second right down to 15 second shutter speeds:eek: , even still I have had to tweek them a bit to bring out detail.

Will post more in a bit.

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By: Peter - 16th September 2007 at 14:09

excellent photo’s!

Even the pilot of the typhoon managed a wave to you!:rolleyes: Theres something about having aircraft on display in a diorama with crew members on display that make for a better display. I like the dinghy display as well!

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By: Arabella-Cox - 16th September 2007 at 13:47

tripod pass??? sounds a bit over the top. why do you need one?

Yes you need a pass to use a tripod at Hendon but who gives them out seems a bit confusing.

I was using a slow shutter speed to allow for the lack of available light and when shooting like this the slightest shake ruins the picture.

I think next time i go i will just take the pictures and adjust them in the computer at home next time like i had to do when i took some shots when airspace at Duxford opened.

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By: Rlangham - 16th September 2007 at 13:33

Nice, how’d you do it? As of next Saturday i’ll be living 200metres away from the museum on the old airfield site, so not exactly far to go if i’ve nothing to do for a couple of hours!

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By: Nashio966 - 16th September 2007 at 13:22

tripod pass??? sounds a bit over the top. why do you need one?

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