Ok has the Antarctic been cleared of it's old aircraft

Heya Mark!!

Very good ta catch ya here mate!!;)

I’m impressed as alway’s 🙂

I alway’s came across Aircraft and bit and bob’s in a lot of different book’s, I have on different world explorer’s.

For me it’s like sort diggin for me dinosaur’s, I would love ta go down there atleast ONCE!

Yes we have left some junk about the planet!!

Maybe like already said, the order to clean up all the shiit may just happen, who know’s, our Point Cooky Shagbat came from down that way, pitty she don’t blooody fly!!:(

Hey there Chris mate!! 🙂

I was just thinking that last night, I am an almost semi-retired Clive Cussler NUT!!:rolleyes: 😀 :p

Well I’m still tryin, HONEST I AM!!!!!!!:eek:

So I know the beast well LOL!

I still see it as the last place really left for some of these Dinosaur Aircraft that are REALLY EXTINCT 😮

I would love a flight in a restored Condor 😎

Look compaired to the Aircraft in other location’s around the world, rotting away at THIS very minute :mad:, I would think what bit’s are still there would have a chance of being in re-useable in some case for rebuild’s as such.

Are great score in anyone’s Lingo I reckon 😉

Oh… a Global Warming Joke!

Please continue to drive your petrol Car’s……..

Because For every few degree’s Warmer the Planet, You will save one of your local Bum Wino’s in a park.

Be proud and Do Your bit to Save The Wino’s of the World :p:D

Oooooo Roooooo and CROC’S Rule!!:dev2:

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The Condor, and the Fokker would both seem to be rare enough to justfy consideration, the Fokker did feature in a magazine a few years ago, consisting of the steel tube fuselage and wooden wing spars, similarly I understand the Condor had been found to be still surviving as a steel tube frame? both if still existing may be reasonably well preserved? other than lose of parts to the strong winds.

Perhaps the most interesting “wreck” and rarest wreck is Mawson’s REP/Vickers monoplane fuselage, which is in fact the first Vickers aircraft ever built, its wings were left in Melbourne, and its fuselage was shipped down to be used a a powered sled, its rudder survives in his preserved camp, the fuselage was apparantly blown away by strong winds.

Vickers No. 1 monoplane
1 R.E.P. 60 HP five-cylinder air-cooled semi-radial engine The very first airplane to be built by Vickers, this was a license-built French machine, designed by Robert Esnault-Pelterie. The fuselage was built in France while the wings were made in England. After being tested at Vickers’ new airfield at Joyce Green, Dartford, and then at Brooklands, it was crated and shipped to Australia for use by the Australasian Antarctic Expedition. However, the wings were damaged beyond repair on October 5, 1911, during a practice flight at Cheltenham Racecourse, Adelaide, Australia, before the expedition left for the Antarctic. Minus its wings, the machine was converted into an air-tractor, and taken south, but it did not fly in the Antarctic. The first tests of the machine as an air-tractor were made on November 15, 1912. After a short trial trip on November 20, 1912, the vehicle made a successful depot-laying trip with a load of 700 pounds on December 2, 1912. At 3 PM on December 3rd, three men and the air-tractor left the expedition’s base at Commonwealth Bay on a major trip. On December 4, 1912, while towing four sledges loaded with fuel and supplies, several of the pistons seized and the engine broke down. The air-tractor was left at this point, about ten miles from the base. Later another party of men recovered the air-tractor, which was taken back to Commonwealth Bay and abandoned there.

28th August 2007, 22:23
David Burke
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There are over a hundred aircraft wrecks in the Antartic – amongst these the remains of a Fokker Universal from the Byrd expedition.

By the way David, your not an author on the subject are you?

Moments of Terror: The Story of Antarctic Aviation, by David Burke
New South Wales University Press, ©1994, ISBN 0 86840 157 9
Pages 9-11, 79, 190, 210-211, 303

regards

Mark Pilkington

OK, it’s definitely no plane but maybe Admiral Byrd’s Snow Cruiser might still be around (worst case – on the bottom of the Ross Sea … )

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antarctic_snow_cruiser

A couple of years ago I read an article about the Byrd Fokker and attempts to raise the bucks to recover it . There were photos of the naked airfame on the ice .

Icy birds

;)Hi folks;
Don’t forget our north,we seem to have an awful lot of C-46s
laying about full of bears.:p

Gettin warmer!!

Hurry Up And Melt Will Ya! :dev2:

The Pom’s had four T-32’s being operated under the British Civil Rego’s, at the outbreak of WW2.

They were then grabbed and flown by the RAF.

Doubt they were flown much, if at all – very quickly passed to Maintenance status

[B]The Condors would be a great find as, I believe, they are extinct.
If you don’t know, they are a classic twin engined bi-plane airliner.
Not many “between the wars” airliners survive from any country, so this could be very important.

Amazing if you came across this in the Antartic!

http://jnpassieux.chez-alice.fr/html/Condor.php

I can’t see recovery teams being allowed down there now, even if they did want to go. There wouldn’t be too much valuable exotica there anyway

Who knows, maybe the “powers that be” would want the stuff removed?

The Condors would be a great find as, I believe, they are extinct.
If you don’t know, they are a classic twin engined bi-plane airliner.
Not many “between the wars” airliners survive from any country, so this could be very important.

The cold would preserve the aircraft if the 1930s Stinson “The Greater Rockford” recovered from Greenland in the late 60s is any indication.

There is that LC-130F recovery.

During Deep Freeze 1971, LC-130 BuNo 148321/XD-03 crashed near Dumont d’Urville, and got covered in snow and ice. It was cleared from the ice and prepared for a ferry flight home during Deep Freeze ’88, and this Hercules served on with VXE-6 on polar flights for quite a few more years. It went to desert storage at AMARC in 1999, and was still there last March.

Ironically, during the recovery of XD-03, another LC-130 crashed at the excavation site…

Readup and pictures of this story at
http://www.southpolestation.com/trivia/history/321/321.html

I can’t see recovery teams being allowed down there now, even if they did want to go. There wouldn’t be too much valuable exotica there anyway

H’mmmmmmm

G’ day again!

Thank’s guy’s 🙂

Yes I had read that Mr Byrd had left bit’s behind down there before somewhere, I have his different travel’s detail in a few book’s around here.

Interesting just what’s still there now, I would think the extreme cold may stop thing’s rotting so fast, looking at the old hut’s and stuff still there.

One person’s junk is another’s treasure hey 😀

So it’s yet another of the great human aeroplane junk yard’s, except it may stay there at least till the ice at the pole’s melt yet again.

(don’t swallow all that Global warming SPIN rubbish, the Iron Lady got that ball rollin :rolleyes: )

The last time that happened, WELL us little rugrat human’s did not even exist 😉 .

And I reckon by the time they melt again, WELL the Human’s may not Exist once again, the planet earth will sure not miss us, it will just continue on it’s merry way like it has for billion’s of year’s .

I would think there are a lot of aeroplane’s and junk, way’s up north in the Artic as well, So I guess there stuck too.

Oh well IT HAPPEN’S, and with Human’s ” IT ” happen’s a LOT!!:D

Ciao

Bulla Bulla

Ooooo Rooooo

CROC’S RULE! :dev2:

That is a tough, wild wilderness to operate in. IIRC there are still remains of some aircrewmen still there that have not been recovered, let alone the the recovery of A/C. I know there was a Martin PBM that went down in ’46 or 47, some of the crew survived and were extracted, but the US Navy refused to go back for bodies!:(

If it is too dangerous and or expensive to extract aircrew remains, I imagine the extraction of A/C remains would be even more so. Let alone, international law and treaties down there. Might be a legal nightmare even if one pulled an AC out of the ice.

There are over a hundred aircraft wrecks in the Antartic – amongst these the remains of a Fokker Universal from the Byrd expedition.

one more thing!

The Pom’s had four T-32’s being operated under the British Civil Rego’s, at the outbreak of WW2.

They were then grabbed and flown by the RAF.

Just thought I would throw that in…….:D

Ciao 😉