Originally posted by Jonesy
But then again those resources even if under a maniac like Saddam Hussein dont belong to USA or any of the allies. Even seeing in long term USA will keep its power over the resources…it wont be after Saddam whenever and whoever people come to Iraq USA will just give away everything.

Not suggesting that the oil belongs to anyone but the citizens of Iraq. Its certainly no more the personal property of Saddam Hussein (or his to destroy) than it is anyone elses. IMO those resources are going to be needed to rebuild Iraq into the prosperous successful, stable, arab nation that the US so desperately needs to have in theatre now Saudi is starting to come unglued.

I agree about the benifits of the Iraqis after Saddam……but would there benifits be covered during the war while seeing there fellow people die. USA killed much more people in Afghanistan than the no. killed in 9/11.

Nope. Deriving statistics from Reuters, AP wire, Agence France Presse, the BBC, and several UK broadsheets the most authoritative calculated death toll I’ve seen has been between 1000-1300 directly related to the US strikes. Less than a third that killed in 9/11 although undoubtedly still a tragically large number. Is a thousand dead Iraqi civillians too high a price to pay for the rest of them to be able to live free of persecution, censure and government organised rape and torture I don’t know and I’m not really qualified to make that determination. My personal view would be that yes it would, however I have the luxury sat here of not being able to empathise with the lot of the average Iraqi citizen.

Agreed the war will be good for the locals and right we see there eagerness to fight war just because Saddam has guns pointed on there heads….. but the ultimate output of the war, economic destruction and most of all humanitarion destruction will be very high.

Destroyed infrastructure can always be rebuilt. With the 2nd largest oil reserves on the planet under responsible and accountable control it cant be too difficult to see that there will be more than a few international corporations willing to “help” the new Iraqi government in order to get shots at rebuilding contracts.

And just for your knowledge jonesy i dont even know who John le Carre or Ian Fleming are!

They’re probably poor examples to use – both are authors that have written fairly well known spy fiction novels though. Le Carre is a bit old hat but “Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Spy” and “Smiley’s People” are kind of classics. Ian Flemings work you’ll probably be a bit more familiar with – the main character in his novels is a former RN Commander by the name of Bond………James Bond!. 😀

Not suggesting that the oil belongs to anyone but the citizens of Iraq. Its certainly no more the personal property of Saddam Hussein (or his to destroy) than it is anyone elses. IMO those resources are going to be needed to rebuild Iraq into the prosperous successful, stable, arab nation that the US so desperately needs to have in theatre now Saudi is starting to come unglued.

But at present the oil is the property of Saddam Hussein.

Destroyed infrastructure can always be rebuilt. With the 2nd largest oil reserves on the planet under responsible and accountable control it cant be too difficult to see that there will be more than a few international corporations willing to “help” the new Iraqi government in order to get shots at rebuilding contracts

I would not like to emphasise on the infrastructure…that definately can be re-built……i was emphasising upon the people who will suffer in this war.