Thanks, I had read of Lockheed/Navantia’s offer, but hadn’t heard of the proposed MAR buy-in (to HSY), though it makes sense as T-K is basically selling everything except submarine design which Germany thinks is strategic.

I was under the impression the MEKO upgrade would happen anyways and T-K would be at least a consultant/licensor no matter who owns HSY… Though they probably would like to dictate their combat system, etc for the Corvettes (I think it was defencenet that had a bit about some ‘Indigenous/Greek design Corvette’, but that could presumably work with T-K or DCNS combat systems).

Honestly, it seems like re-nationalizing HSY is the best bet, keeping partners more competitive on a per-project basis, and negotiate participation in exports to 3rd countries for the same types/ within capabilities of HSY.

What with T-K’s behavior dragging in the 209 AIP upgrade, I do think getting rid of them is the best bet…

I don’t know, all this story has me confused. I will wait to see the final agreement. I am surprised that they would want to stay even with 25%… Or their partner for what matters. Defencenet updated the article saying that the goverment has agreed. The actual goverment anouncement after the ministers’ meeting says that they will meed with Mr. Atzpodien on 23 December. But defencenet says that they will agree.

I don’t know anything about the MEKO program, it’s just “on paper” , so nobody knows when or what upgrade it will be. I guess they want to be sure that all systems will be theirs…

Yes, a greek design corvette was presented a few days ago to the Navy, but there were no details of what systems it would have on. Obviously, you could adjust systems to be “german” most likely, if it was to be built in Skaramanga. If there is a requirement. Apparently some know more about this mysterious corvette thing than the rest of us common mortals. Because in the previous’ goverment plan, there wasn’t supposed to be a corvette anywhere. While now suddenly defencenet talks of corvettes, a mysterious greek company goes to show a corvette design… I don’t know.

The renationalization, is what our communist party asks for (as with every privatized ex public company), but i don’t see it happening, because of the current condition of the economy and because the workers union would become too strong again and mix ties with politicians and it would end up with huge losses, a black hole for public money. At least until the greek politics change.

The next best thing would be for Tavularis to get them. But i have my doubts about EU competition laws (anti-monopoly).

On the other hand Abu Dhabi Mar should be more of a warranty for the future of the shipyards. Because theoretically, someone bigger can buy off Tavularis too anyway.

The greek state must once more distribute jobs between Skaramanga and Elefsis-Neorion shipyards. Since Elefsis will take the FREMM, if there is in deed a corvette program in preparation in the plans of the new MoD, probably the Skaramanga will get it. As well as the MEKO upgrade and the building of 2 U209AIP.

AFAIK, the greek goverment would prefer not to upgrade the 2 remaining U209 and build 2 new ones from scratch.