oh well bemused – there always another thread to argue on 😉 – however much people like myself on the ground (even those who work in the industry think we know) the crew are the people up there flying!

Most of us here want to get there one day, but if you read the whole thread through we can see how those in command of the aircraft we anoraks fly in day in day out know what they are doing – exactly what Spotty M and Moondance have shown in this thread!!!