01/02/07 – Its going to be one long day!

Thanks for putting me right there,chaps, Still a shocking way to go about it, any other business pi***ng off their customers would result in lost custom, of course EZY and RYR etc.. have a unique business model.I still believe they should cough up and then claim back from the Government who ultimately have caused/made the balls up.
Can you imagine muppets in orange shirts chasing folk up and down check in areas with buckets 😀 😀 😀 , I’m sure Tony Robinson is on standby to document it hehe 😮

Nope. Jet2 was singled out this morning on the news as it isn’t even asking its passengers who booked before the rise to pay the extra tax – its just automatically making an extra charge against their passenger’s credit or debit cards and only contacting those where the transaction bounces. And it was said that yes, even that is legal.
Andy

The Jet2 website carries this message. Doesn’t appear to agree with what is inferred above!!

Government imposed Airport Departure Tax

Due to the government imposed APD tax of an additional 5 pounds per person, on UK departing flights, Jet2.com are in the process of contacting all customers (namely the person who’s contact details were provided at the time of booking) to organise collection of this fee in advance of travel. Please note our system for doing so involves contacting our customers in an order relating to your departure date. Therefore our call centre and sales desks are unable to assist with queries relating to this, in this instance. This will eliminate disruption at check-in, therefore maintaining our smooth, stress free check-in process. In the event we cannot contact you prior to travel, you will need to pay this fee at check-in before you travel.

At the end of the day HE charged his passengers X amount, the passenger paid X amount, it is a very simple contract, and all airlines forcing people to pay more will i’m sure be wide open to being sued.

Nope. T&Cs allow airlines to pass on increased costs, especially government imposed taxes, to passengers. At least Ryanair is telling its passengers and asking for the extra fiver. Jet2 was singled out this morning on the news as it isn’t even asking its passengers who booked before the rise to pay the extra tax – its just automatically making an extra charge against their passenger’s credit or debit cards and only contacting those where the transaction bounces. And it was said that yes, even that is legal.

So far, BA is the only airline that’s said it definitely will not collect the extra tax. Virgin have said they’ll collect it at checkin (and that could be up to an extra £40 per person), and BMI have said they’re going to collect it but haven’t decided how yet. Apparently the only other exception is tour operator passengers travelling on inclusive tours, where the operator is usually required to absorb an increase of up to 2% which means that most charter passengers won’t be affected. So leave it out as far as Ryanair is concerned on this one – how can they be expected to absorb an extra fiver in tax on a £0.01 or £0.99 fare?

Andy

Scotty,

FR is a clever business. It never backs itself into corners willingly. I would strongly imagine that their T&C have a get out clause whereby it lets the airlines charge extra should be required.

This is similar to my profession, the events industry. If you buy a ticket for a event we always state in T&C we have the right to refuse entry without refund etc. You agree to the T&C when purchasing a ticket.

I think FR may just use a refusal to travel clause as it covers endless possabilities such as drunk, agressive or refusing to cough up passengers.

I think easyJet have hinted they will collect by bucket “donations” at check in?? Unlikely to raise much I certainly would not pay!

O’Queery is a nugget about this…no doubt whatsoever, I hope he PERSONALLY is going to be at the airports to tell folk they are not flying and that he is breaking the contract he has with each paid customer…especially those in the UK from abroad who may not have any idea of this charge coming in to place while they are shopping at Harrods.
Get a grip O’Leary, bite the bullet as BA etc.. are doing and cover the cost.
At the end of the day HE charged his passengers X amount, the passenger paid X amount, it is a very simple contract, and all airlines forcing people to pay more will i’m sure be wide open to being sued. MOL and others should be going cap in hand to the government who have screwed up, not the innocent passenger!:mad:

And I totally disagree with Michael O’Leary on this one, that if you don’t pay, there will be no flight! What a complete idiot he is here!

Nope, for once I agree with O’Leary. Whether we agree with the increase in taxes or not (I don’t) is irrelevent. There will be countless scroungers trying to dodge paying the extra charge. If you don’t want to pay, or can’t pay – spot on Mr O’Leary for saying you don’t get to fly. This isn’t a surcharge introduced by airlines of their own volition, its a tax that legally has to be paid by airlines to the govermnent. O’Leary doesn’t have a choice – if he carries the passenger he has to pass on the extra tax, and there’s no reason why any one of his passengers should dodge it.

Andy

the government just think we all have bottomless pockets..
its ok for them theyre rich.

We’re still waiting to hear from Virgin about how much extra our flights to the US in February will be – they seem to be the only main airline not to have said anything as yet.

Maybe you should be blaming the government though……its not really the airlines fault.

Which I am! But to be told just because you don’t, or can’t pay the extra charge, and be told you have no flight, i’d be very very unhappy at this!!

Yes I just watched this on the news. I think it is a very unfair extra tax and its all about a move to what is being discussed in this thread:
http://forum.keypublishing.com/showthread.php?t=66725

Regards

AJ

Maybe you should be blaming the government though……its not really the airlines fault.