….see Accident North American T-28A Trojan HA-RDM , (aviation-safety.net) 🙁
By: NewQldSpitty - 12th September 2023 at 10:57
Not wrong…Some people look at heros with rose tinted glasses…
By: Arabella-Cox - 12th September 2023 at 07:23
Dixie Deans had another view point on Bader, and one I agree with.
By: NewQldSpitty - 11th September 2023 at 23:22
Even the best do it.Bader lost his legs doing same manouver.
By: Arabella-Cox - 11th September 2023 at 16:52
Re aileron rolls, simple and effective, BUT you must stop pitch input before rolling.
As for the low roll accident… we will never know what the pilot was thinking. Dreadful flying. Always, always have an escape manoeuvre.
By: Prop Strike - 11th September 2023 at 16:50
This viewpoint close to impact is truly shocking, and three civilians have been seriously burned.
It is sobering for those of us who have loitered in field near by display flying events thinking that we could maybe take cover if things looked as though they were getting out of shape. No way !
An awful awful event, and this really did not need to happen.
By: trumper - 11th September 2023 at 15:04
So sad and avoidable 🙁
By: Prop Strike - 11th September 2023 at 10:22
T-28 Trojan crash, Börgönd Hungary – YouTube
Sickening to see, but this is gross pilot error, yet another pilot getting a rush of blood to the head, and showing off beyond capability. It is very rash to slow roll at 200 feet, and there was no hard push while inverted to check descent.
He could have ended a fast pass with a 40 degree pitch up, and a sharp aileron roll, which would have been fine, and he would not have killed his passenger. The RAF memorial flight ( BBMF) have not lost an airframe or pilot in a handling accident in six decades, and have a strict ( but safe) display regime which is a good template for safe operation, and certainly forbids slow rolls, and the fighters will only perform aileron rolls on a firm upward vector having established a gateway speed for the figure.
Low level rolls are a killer, and the average pilot is not competent to attempt them, not that there is any point anyway. There has been a culture change in the last few decades, and the professional display scene is much better now, but the real hazard seems to be the entry level ‘nearly-warbirds’, just about affordable for recreational amateur pilots, probably without a DA ( Display Authorisation) , and so still Harvards, Yaks, T34s , T28 and others continue to roll into the ground. YouTube has numerous examples, and it would be too depressing to line them all up.
It has been a problem for so long. This video from 1959 shows a pilot effectively commiting suicide trying to roll a Prentice ( about as agile as a Routemanster bus ! ) at maybe 100 feet with just the same result as the T28. At least he did not take anyone with him.
These are entirely avoidable Human Factors accidents, to do with too little understanding, too much adrenalin, and too much ego.
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