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18 Squadron and Schuyt exercise

Dear All,

I was wondering if any members might be able to help me. I have been looking through a log book to a chap serving with 18 Squadron and on the 13th May 1942 he moves to Ayr for a short spell and states he is carrying out “SCHUIJTE EXERCISES” (possible schvijte?), and COMBINED OPERATIONS. I have no idea what these are, and he returns to the squadrons main base on the 29th May after two attemps to return failed due to the prot engine failing.

I was also wondering if anybody had any idea who was commanding B Flight in June 1942 and October/November 1942.

Any help would be great,

Johnnie

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By: johnnie - 1st September 2011 at 10:16

Many thanks. PM sent.

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By: johnnie - 1st September 2011 at 10:16

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By: phill jones 516 - 31st August 2011 at 21:06

SCHUYT EXERCISE

Johnnie , further to my previous note on this subject , i can now add the following ,

Their was in indeed 3 SCHUYT EXERCISES that took place in MAY 1942 , sadly the third exercise was cancelled for what reason i do not know , also note the spelling as above is correct .
The whole thing was organised by COMBINED OPERATIONS for a fuller explantion of COMBINED OPS visit the Site already mentioned www.combinedops.com . a lot of the content on this site was provided by me .

very basically COMBINED OPERATIONS WAS ALL 3 SERVICE’S WORKING AS A SINGLE FIGHTING FORCE .

THE SCHUYT EXERCISES PROVIDED ,occasions for active co operation between the three service’s

The RAF sqd crews ,WERE GIVEN instruction in the aspects and processes of COMBINED OPERATIONS ,before taking part in the SCHUYT EXERCISE’S , sadly due to the CANCELLATION of the SCHUYT 3 EXERCISE the third batch of SQD CREWS MISSED THIER PRACTICAL EXPERIENCE .

i have a monthly progress report from COMBINED TRAINING CENTRE DUNDONALD FOR MAY 42 which mentions the exercise’s , but it does not state what the EXERCISE consisted off , if you want a copy of the report let me know of site and i will send you a copy

please may i also ask , if it would be possible to obtain a copy of the flying log of which you speak , just the pages relating to the EXERCISE ?

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By: phill jones 516 - 31st August 2011 at 21:06

SCHUYT EXERCISE

Johnnie , further to my previous note on this subject , i can now add the following ,

Their was in indeed 3 SCHUYT EXERCISES that took place in MAY 1942 , sadly the third exercise was cancelled for what reason i do not know , also note the spelling as above is correct .
The whole thing was organised by COMBINED OPERATIONS for a fuller explantion of COMBINED OPS visit the Site already mentioned www.combinedops.com . a lot of the content on this site was provided by me .

very basically COMBINED OPERATIONS WAS ALL 3 SERVICE’S WORKING AS A SINGLE FIGHTING FORCE .

THE SCHUYT EXERCISES PROVIDED ,occasions for active co operation between the three service’s

The RAF sqd crews ,WERE GIVEN instruction in the aspects and processes of COMBINED OPERATIONS ,before taking part in the SCHUYT EXERCISE’S , sadly due to the CANCELLATION of the SCHUYT 3 EXERCISE the third batch of SQD CREWS MISSED THIER PRACTICAL EXPERIENCE .

i have a monthly progress report from COMBINED TRAINING CENTRE DUNDONALD FOR MAY 42 which mentions the exercise’s , but it does not state what the EXERCISE consisted off , if you want a copy of the report let me know of site and i will send you a copy

please may i also ask , if it would be possible to obtain a copy of the flying log of which you speak , just the pages relating to the EXERCISE ?

HOPE THIS HELP PHILL JONES

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By: johnnie - 31st August 2011 at 19:27

Many thanks for the replies. That would seem to fit in as he also mentions “combined operations” on one of the days he is up in Scotland.

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By: johnnie - 31st August 2011 at 19:27

Many thanks for the replies. That would seem to fit in as he also mentions “combined operations” on one of the days he is up in Scotland.

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By: antoni - 31st August 2011 at 14:29

There were at least 3 Schuyt exercises. You will find them explained here as well as some photographs of aircraft taking part.

http://www.combinedops.com/516%20Sqd.htm

http://www.combinedops.com/Training%20in%20Landing%20Craft%20Operations.htm

http://www.nosracines.ca/page.aspx?id=882805&qryID=c4cb5c87-615a-40f1-8071-2de6c6f505d5

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By: antoni - 31st August 2011 at 14:29

There were at least 3 Schuyt exercises. You will find them explained here as well as some photographs of aircraft taking part.

http://www.combinedops.com/516%20Sqd.htm

http://www.combinedops.com/Training%20in%20Landing%20Craft%20Operations.htm

http://www.nosracines.ca/page.aspx?id=882805&qryID=c4cb5c87-615a-40f1-8071-2de6c6f505d5

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By: phill jones 516 - 31st August 2011 at 13:52

exercise SCHUYT

Johnnie , During MAY 1942 , AN EXERCISE BY THE NAME OF SCHUYT ,TOOK PLACE AT DUNDONALD home stn of 1441 COMBINED OPERATIONS DEVELOPMENT FLT THAT HAD FORMED AT ABBOTSINCH in JAN 1942, THIS FLT LATER BECAME 516 COMBINED OPERATIONS SQD in APRIL 43 , IT SEEMS THAT 18 sqd were present at Dundonald equipped with BLENHEIM’S FROM 13/5 42 UNTIL 15/5/42 , it has been suggested that 18 sqd HAD USED DUNDONALD AS A STAGING POST ON ITS WAY FROM THE MIDDLE EAST TO AYR .

It has been some time since i researched 1441flt/516 sqd BUT I WILL HAVE A LOOK AT MY FILES AND SEE IF ANY NMORE GEN IS AVAILABLE

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By: phill jones 516 - 31st August 2011 at 13:52

exercise SCHUYT

Johnnie , During MAY 1942 , AN EXERCISE BY THE NAME OF SCHUYT ,TOOK PLACE AT DUNDONALD home stn of 1441 COMBINED OPERATIONS DEVELOPMENT FLT THAT HAD FORMED AT ABBOTSINCH in JAN 1942, THIS FLT LATER BECAME 516 COMBINED OPERATIONS SQD in APRIL 43 , IT SEEMS THAT 18 sqd were present at Dundonald equipped with BLENHEIM’S FROM 13/5 42 UNTIL 15/5/42 , it has been suggested that 18 sqd HAD USED DUNDONALD AS A STAGING POST ON ITS WAY FROM THE MIDDLE EAST TO AYR .

It has been some time since i researched 1441flt/516 sqd BUT I WILL HAVE A LOOK AT MY FILES AND SEE IF ANY NMORE GEN IS AVAILABLE

UNTIL later Phill jones

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By: ericmunk - 31st August 2011 at 13:14

schuitje

Dutch for CAR.

May be a clue.

Mark

Actually, ‘schuitje’ means:
– a little ship
– small basket for a balloon or swing
– a casting shape (‘bread’) for tin
– the spool of a sewing machine

There may be a link to an expression ‘schuitje varen’ (taking a trip) or ‘in hetzelfde schuitje zitten’ (everybody being in the same situation).

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By: ericmunk - 31st August 2011 at 13:14

schuitje

Dutch for CAR.

May be a clue.

Mark

Actually, ‘schuitje’ means:
– a little ship
– small basket for a balloon or swing
– a casting shape (‘bread’) for tin
– the spool of a sewing machine

There may be a link to an expression ‘schuitje varen’ (taking a trip) or ‘in hetzelfde schuitje zitten’ (everybody being in the same situation).

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By: TonyT - 31st August 2011 at 13:01

Have you tried asking the association??

http://www.18sqnassociation.co.uk/gallery.html

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By: TonyT - 31st August 2011 at 13:01

Have you tried asking the association??

http://www.18sqnassociation.co.uk/gallery.html

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By: Mark12 - 31st August 2011 at 12:56

schuitje

Dutch for CAR.

May be a clue.

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By: Mark12 - 31st August 2011 at 12:56

schuitje

Dutch for CAR.

May be a clue.

Mark

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