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1948 holiday to Holland (with car)

We have been clearing out my aunties house, who died recently, and came across an album of photos showing my late uncle’s (died in 1976) trip to Holland back in 1948. He went with a neighbour who owned a Jaguar, which they took with them. I am sure you guys can tell me all about the plane, the airline and anything else that might be of interest. I have more if you like.

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Pic 001 by tonylewismostlyme, on Flickr

My uncle is the young lad on the left carrying the suitcase. My grandfather is the stout gentleman on the right. He didn’t go with them but was there to say goodbye.

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On goes the Jag.

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My grandfather walks away as my uncle gets onto the plane with the other passengers.

Enjoy,

Tony.

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By: ericmunk - 3rd February 2014 at 13:31

Pic 037 is the “Rademarkt” and the “Oosterstraat” in Groningen

Yes, standing just south of the corner with Prinsenstraat if I’m correct.

BTW: the label in your album (LorjΓ©, Arnhem) was from a well-known publisher and editing firm at the time, that also had an office supplies shop in Arnhem.

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By: Jur - 3rd February 2014 at 13:26

I think the bridge in pic 050 and 051 is the original Moerdijk bridge, which was heavily damaged by the Germans in 1944. In 1978 the bridge in the motorway was replaced by a new and wider one. Parts of the old bridge can still be found elsewhere in the Netherlands.

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By: Adrian Barrell - 3rd February 2014 at 13:25

Pic 026 is at Hermeton-sur-Meuse in Belgium. The Sherman, a rare(ish) M4A3E2 Jumbo assault tank is now in the Brussels Army Museum.

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By: Jur - 3rd February 2014 at 13:09

Pic 037 is the “Rademarkt” and the “Oosterstraat” in Groningen, a city in the north of the Netherlands close to village I’m living. Some damage from the final days of the war, when the city was liberated by the Canadians, still visible in the background. The church tower is the Martini-toren; a well known landmark of the city.

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By: ozjag - 3rd February 2014 at 03:48

I’d say that 038 is the approach to the Arnhem bridge but 050 and 051 is a different multi span bridge further North. In fact I think 050 and 051 may be 2 different bridges because although their structure looks similar there are significant differences

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By: nibb100 - 2nd February 2014 at 21:19

in 045 are they leaving Germany for Denmark,
that can’t be Arnhem bridge can it

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By: Tony at BH - 2nd February 2014 at 21:02

Ok. I’m back. I have dug the hard drive out of my broken laptop and got the rest of the photos of the holiday.

Just to recap. My uncle Alan went on holiday in Europe in 1949 with a neighbour and his Jag. If you can locate any of these following pics, that would be brill. I have also added a couple of interesting pics too (that you’d never locate). Enjoy.

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Pic 016 by tonylewismostlyme, on Flickr

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Pic 037 by tonylewismostlyme, on Flickr

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Pic 038 by tonylewismostlyme, on Flickr

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Pic 045 by tonylewismostlyme, on Flickr

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Pic 046 by tonylewismostlyme, on Flickr

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Pic 050 by tonylewismostlyme, on Flickr

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Pic 051 by tonylewismostlyme, on Flickr

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By: Tony at BH - 21st January 2014 at 16:47

Sorry Admin, we seem to have gone off topic a bit. Hope it’s ok?

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By: Tony at BH - 21st January 2014 at 14:46

And here’s PIC 19 then and now.

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Pic 019 by tonylewismostlyme, on Flickr

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Reims PIC 19 now by tonylewismostlyme, on Flickr

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By: Tony at BH - 21st January 2014 at 14:37

So this is the route, as we know it so far, that they took.

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map 1 by tonylewismostlyme, on Flickr

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By: Tony at BH - 21st January 2014 at 08:46

Nice find. Thanks for posting.

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By: l.garey - 21st January 2014 at 06:54

I attach the back cover of the 1952 edition of Ian Allan’s Civil Aircraft Markings. Note it states Lympne to Le Touquet.

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By: Sonderman - 20th January 2014 at 21:13

Maybe I’ll put some more up shortly. They will really test you. πŸ˜‰

Tony.

Would be great, they must have past my house on a short distance.

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By: thawes - 20th January 2014 at 18:00

The thought had crossed my mind too and I see that you have also pre-empted by finding locations on Google Earth (where would we be without it?). Alas I scanned all the photos onto my laptop, and uploaded to Flickr all the ones you see here, but now the hard drive has stopped working before I had a chance to back-up. So I will have to scan them all again.

They are numbered in the order they were scanned straight from the album so they should be in the order that they visited the locations (that’s why I thought it strange at first that the photo of the planes was later in the book and not at the beginning with the others – see a previous post of mine).

I might do the same exercise with his slides from the 60’s.

Tony.

Your relative’s photo of the fountain with the bulls looked familiar. They must have got around in Europe because the fountain is I believe the Gefion fountain in Copenhagen.

See here: http://www.copenhagenet.dk/cph-map/cph-gefion.asp

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By: Tony at BH - 20th January 2014 at 15:21

It would be nice to make a map and pinpoint all the confirmed places! Let the pictures come to us!! πŸ˜‰

The thought had crossed my mind too and I see that you have also pre-empted by finding locations on Google Earth (where would we be without it?). Alas I scanned all the photos onto my laptop, and uploaded to Flickr all the ones you see here, but now the hard drive has stopped working before I had a chance to back-up. So I will have to scan them all again.

They are numbered in the order they were scanned straight from the album so they should be in the order that they visited the locations (that’s why I thought it strange at first that the photo of the planes was later in the book and not at the beginning with the others – see a previous post of mine).

I might do the same exercise with his slides from the 60’s.

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By: Gerard - 20th January 2014 at 14:16

019 is in Reims. http://www.delcampe.net/page/item/id,62939037,var,51–REIMS–BAR-DU-PARVIS-TABAC–AUTOMOBILE–03071634,language,E.html
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By: Gerard - 20th January 2014 at 13:54

Well I am gobsmacked. Some of the photos I put up on here I thought would get a response (which they did) but others, like the German border, I hoped but never thought I’d get anything. Thanks everyone for your time and efforts. Maybe I’ll put some more up shortly. They will really test you. πŸ˜‰

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It would be nice to make a map and pinpoint all the confirmed places! Let the pictures come to us!! πŸ˜‰

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By: Gerard - 20th January 2014 at 13:52

Gerard, I was looking for such evidence; you did beat me to it!

A few more pics I found; the 2nd is the same as yours. Also the present situation from Google Maps.
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I found via some facebookfriend also this pic from the hotel: http://www.beeldbankgroningen.nl/beeldbank/weergave/record/?id=60caab21-786f-6060-187a-105cbbdb46e2 and note that the hotel is gone and replaced by residential homes.

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By: Tony at BH - 20th January 2014 at 13:47

Well I am gobsmacked. Some of the photos I put up on here I thought would get a response (which they did) but others, like the German border, I hoped but never thought I’d get anything. Thanks everyone for your time and efforts. Maybe I’ll put some more up shortly. They will really test you. πŸ˜‰

Tony.

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