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1950's Archive Part 16: Propliners

Viewing figures suggest that a few people are still interested in these old pictures, so here is a set of early propliners. There are hundreds to choose from, so I will post a few at a time and update this thread every day or so.
To start with, some of the earliest shots,all from 1950, which show the amazing facilities then available to spectators at the London airports. My research has been helped enormously by the recent book by Charles Woodley:’Heathrow Airport-The First 25 years’
All photos by the late Gerald Lawrance, digitised and made available by Tony Clarke.

4X-ADC Douglas DC-4, El Al (1950-1952) W/O as YA-BAG 21-11-59:

4X-ADC

CF-TFQ Canadair Argonaut, TCA (1948-1961):

CF-TFQ

F-BATB SNCASE SE.161 Languedoc, Air France:

F-BATB

F-BATQ SNCASE SE.161 Languedoc, Air France:

F-BATQ

F-BATV SNCASE SE.161 Languedoc, Air France:

F-BATV

G-AGJG DH89A Dragon Rapide, Island Air Services, pleasure flying aircraft. (Still very active at Duxford):

G-AGJG

G-AJBW Vickers Viking 1B, BEA (1948-1955 ). W/O as F-BFDN Corsica 5-9-59. At Northolt:

G-AJBW

N90927 Lockheed L-049 Constellation, American Overseas A/L:

N90927

N88944 Douglas DC-4, Pan American ‘Clipper Ocean Express’ :

N88944

NC1032V Boeing 377 Stratocruiser, Pan American. (W/O 26-3-55 Seattle): Smoking!

NC1032V

NC88850 Lockheed L-049 Constellation, Pan American ‘Clipper Intrepid’:

NC88850

OO-AWO Convair 240, Sabena (W/O 19-12-53 Kloten);

OO-AWO

OO-AWR Convair 240, Sabena (W/O 11-4-58 Warsaw):

OO-AWR

SX-DAA Consolidated LB-30 Liberator, Hellenic Airlines. (W/O in Alaska 1958, recovered and now stored in USA). At Northolt:

SX-DAA

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By: Skyraider3D - 18th July 2013 at 12:15

Just spotted this post! Very, very cool! Worthy of a “bump” me thinks!

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By: VOD80 - 29th April 2011 at 07:55

Oooo! Viscounts! Yes please! I grew up in Southern Africa and went off to school in Viscounts. Loved them then, still love them now, especially the 700 series…

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By: alertken - 28th April 2011 at 21:44

The Cranfield Dove 5 was the College’s G-APSO, which went to Devonair/Kemble as parts source.
Several of the Morton Doves fluttered between XY- and AP- on seasonal charters.
Why, o why, did DH not have the wit to Rileyfy/Saundersify their products? There is a clear pedigree bloodline from Beech C-45/D.18S into today’s King Air. By Protecting DH Engine Co/DH Props, the DH Enterprise doomed the Aircraft Co.

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By: DCW - 28th April 2011 at 18:09

Thanks to all for comments and additions, I have edited a few locations.
As usual, as soon as I finished the additions, two more came to light:

G-AKSV, BAC (To YI-AEH 1966):

G-AKSV

5Y-KVC again (To G-AVCF, later N714R):

5Y-KVC

Plenty more to come. I feel like some Viscounts next week, maybe a separate thread…..

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By: pogno - 28th April 2011 at 17:30

The latest batch of scans from Tony includes a lot more Doves and Herons. Most date from the mid Sixties, although exact dates and locations are unknown. The pictures are from both Gerald Lawrance and Tony himself, any further information would be very welcome.

Starting with the crowded Morton Air Services ramp at Gatwick circa 1965:

G-AJBI/G-AMYO/G-ANAN/G-AOXL/G-AOYC/G-APKT:

G-ANAN

G-ANVC (Wfu by 1966):

G-ANVC

G-ANWZ (Wfu by 1970):

G-ANWZ

G-AOGO (Later N585PR):

G-AOGO

G-AOXL (Later LN-BFY):

G-AOXL

Note the Morton Airways Hangar at LGW, it was a listed building due to its fancy wooden structure of laminated pine framing with planked boarding on the outside which was later replaced by cement board. The story was that it was going to be relocated in the 1980’s but it burned down one Sunday evening soon after BA took over BCAL.
At that time it was being used as a store for the larger DC10 spares such as undercarriage legs and flying control surfaces as well as a newly overhauled RB211-534e for a 757 and brand new INU’s for the 10’s. Several Million quids worth on the insurance claim.

Richard

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By: sagindragin - 28th April 2011 at 17:02

the first two devons are gorgeous,

and the hercules you posted the other day in shiney natural metal finish:)

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By: DCW - 28th April 2011 at 15:13

To complete the picture, three RAF Devons:

VP968 (Very shiny):

VP968

VP972 Royal Radar Establishment:

VP972

VP980 ETPS. At Farnborough:

VP980

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By: DCW - 28th April 2011 at 15:10

More Doves:

G-ALCU (Wfu by 1973, now preserved Coventry as ‘G-ALVD’). At Biggin Hill:

G-ALCU

G-AMFU (To OO-SCD 1969 and now preserved Lelystad). At Gatwick:

G-AMFU

G-AMXY (To 9J-AAE 1969):

G-AMXY

G-AMXY again, with ‘The Nuclear Power Group’

G-AMXY

G-AMZN (To SE-GRA 1972, believed still in Sweden):

G-AMZN

G-AOFI Tacair (Scrapped Coventry 1970). At Biggin Hill:

G-AOFI

G-ARBH (Wfu by 1984, later derelict in Spain). At Blackbushe:

G-ARBH

G-ARDH David Brown (To OY-DRP 1971) At Gatwick:

G-ARDH
G-ARDH

G-ARMT (To VH-DHA 1971):

G-ARMT

G-AROI (To OY-AJR 1980). At Gatwick:

G-AROI

G-ARUM (To G-DDCD 1984). Landing Cambridge:

G-ARUM

G-ARUM again. at Luton:

G-ARUM

G-ARUM At Gatwick:

G-ARUM

G-ASPA Dowty (Wfu by 1982):

G-ASPA

G-AVHV Dowty (W/O 9-4-70). At Luton:

G-AVHV

And last (for now) Riley Dove G-ASUW at Cambridge:

G-ASUW
G-ASUW

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By: DCW - 28th April 2011 at 15:07

The latest batch of scans from Tony includes a lot more Doves and Herons. Most date from the mid Sixties, although exact dates and locations are unknown. The pictures are from both Gerald Lawrance and Tony himself, any further information would be very welcome.

Starting with the crowded Morton Air Services ramp at Gatwick circa 1965:

G-AJBI/G-AMYO/G-ANAN/G-AOXL/G-AOYC/G-APKT:

G-ANAN

G-ANVC (Wfu by 1966), Gatwick again:

G-ANVC

G-ANWZ (Wfu by 1970), Gatwick:

G-ANWZ

G-AOGO (Later N585PR), Gatwick:

G-AOGO

G-AOXL (Later LN-BFY), Gatwick:

G-AOXL

G-ASUZ (Later N565PR), Gatwick:

G-ASUZ

G-ASVA (Later N564PR), Gatwick:

G-ASVA

G-ASVA at Gatwick again. Not sure if this is a ‘before’ or an ‘after’ previous shot:

G-ASVA

Some more Herons:

5Y-KVC ‘Directorate Of Civil Aviation East Africa’. With Shackleton Aviation at Sywell 1965-1966 on the way to G-AVCF:

5Y-KVC

D-CASI Sudflug (1962-1963). At Coventry 14-8-63:

D-CASI

G-ANUO Shell Aviation (Now preserved Croydon as ‘G-AOXL’) At Cambridge:

G-ANUO

On to the Doves:

HB-LAP (Became G-ATAP 1965, later SE-EUR):

HB-LAP

PH-ILI Philips, a regular at Gatwick (later OO-WIP):

PH-ILI
PH-ILI

PH-KLS ‘Flashband’ Also at Gatwick (Ex and to G-AKET, Wfu by 1965):

PH-KLS

Unknown Dove (EDIT: G-APSO), looks like Cranfield:

G-????

G-AJOT Sky Charters (To 6V-ABL 1968) At Gatwick:

G-AJOT

G-AJPR (Wfu by 1969):

G-AJPR

G-AKSR (To TJ-ACC 1965):

G-AKSR

G-AKSS (Wfu by 1975). At Le Bourget:

G-AKSS

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By: longshot - 13th April 2011 at 18:32

G-APRI is at Luton, I think ….shape of tower, and its under the wingtip of G-ARXE a Britannia A/W Connie….if you enable the tag function on flickr anybody can add locations as tags which then show up on a search by location, whereas locations added as comments don’t

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By: pagen01 - 13th April 2011 at 16:26

Excellent shots, could the Heron be in for repaint/refinish hence covered over windows?
Interesting cockpit window arrangement on the Fairey Surveys Dove.

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By: PaulR - 13th April 2011 at 15:48

Anyone enlighten me as to why the portholes on the last Heron pic are blacked out?

More great shots, btw, this is a brilliant thread.

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By: DCW - 13th April 2011 at 15:25

The Herons:

G-AMTS (W/O 16-7-61):

G-AMTS

G-ANNO (To HS-EAB 1980) Cambridge:

G-ANNO

G-AOTI Rolls Royce (Wfu 1982) Heathrow:

G-AOTI

G-AOZN Overseas Air Transport (1959-1962):

G-AOZN

G-AOZN Mercury Airlines (1962-1964) Cambridge:

G-AOZN

G-APRI (Ex Jordanian Air Force, To Riley Heron) 1965:

G-APRI

G-APRK (Later ST-27):

G-APRK

G-ARUA (1962-1965):

G-ARUA

G-ASFI (To VH-CLW 1964) 1963-1964:

G-ASFI

CF-CNX (Ex Kuwait Air Force, To ST-27) Fairoaks 13-2-72:

CF-CNX

Dates and locations unknown unless stated

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By: DCW - 13th April 2011 at 15:11

Someone asked for Doves and Herons:

G-AHRB Skyways (To CR-CAD 1957):

G-AHRB

G-AIWF (To TF-BPD 1964):

G-AIWF

G-AJZT, Probably Croydon 1950 (W/O 9-6-51):

G-AJZT

G-AKJR Olley Air Service (Wfu by 1968) Cambridge 1950:

G-AKJR

G-AKSK Olley Air Service (W/O 23-7-55) Probably Croydon 1950:

G-AKSK

G-AKYS (To 6V-PRD 1964) 1950:

G-AKYS

G-ALCU (Wfu by 1973, preserved Coventry) Cambridge Pre 1950:

G-ALCU

G-ALCU (Wfu by 1973, presrved Coventry) Cambridge 3-7-51:

G-ALCU

G-ALFT Ministry Of Civil Aviation (Wfu by 1973):

G-ALFT

G-ALVS (Wfu by 1970):

G-ALVS

G-AMKS Fairey Surveys (Wfu by 1972):

G-AMKS

G-AOSE Precise Surveys (Scrapped 1974):

G-AOSE

G-AOYC Morton Air Services (To PK-ICS 1969):

G-AOYC

G-AOZW Channel Airways (Wfu by 1966):

G-AOZW

G-ASPA Dowty (Wfu by 1982) Cambridge:

G-ASPA
G-ASPA

G-ATGI (To Riley Dove and VH-ABM 1974):

G-ATGI

G-ATGI Riley Dove, McAlpine Aviation (To VH-ABM 1974) Cambridge:

G-ATGI

HB-LAS (To G-AZPG 1972) Somewhere in Switzerland:

HB-LAS

Dates and locations unknown unless stated

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By: pagen01 - 11th April 2011 at 10:05

Excellent pictures again DCW, fantastic looking aircraft, and a shame that no whole ones survive.

Interesting comparison LS, surprising how many vital statistics are similar between the two types aswel, apart from the power.
I guess the Marathon could achieve almost the same performances as the Flamingo with less power?
I suppose the other thing that might have helped kill it off was the DH Heron, which shifted not far off the same amount of passengers, but with less power and lower weights etc.

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By: longshot - 11th April 2011 at 00:22

Marathon

Pretty plane, but with that fuselage section they couldn’t pressurize it, could they? Which would have created problems for a turboprop version.I’m struck by the similarities in capability with the DH Flamingo which had rather more power

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