1980s Secret Lancaster project

thanks for that link 682al. very interesting conversion.
Greg

Since the subject seems to have moved in this direction I thought I’d just post this (which I found whilst searching for a crashed B.17 in Kent), which may interest some of you…
http://www.paranormaldatabase.com/aviation/pages/avdata.php

Flood

Derwent Lanc

I’ll talk to Vic when I next see him about this ditched Lanc story

Funny how I lived there and never heard it before………….

Certainly over the years I’ve seen the dam so low that surely something would have been visible.

The Herc references remind me of the time I was drinking at the Ladybower (which was often as it was my local) and we rushed out at the sound of unaturally loud highly revving engines. A Herc was heading straight (or so it seemed) for the pub. Always assumed he had been flying up the dam and mistakenly turned right instead of left at the convergence. Goodness only knows how he cleared the hill……… 😮

There is just about a third York survivor in Canada – See the piccys on the (dare I say it) WIX gallery

The Ghost Lanc is a popular legend up here in Derbyshire. We also have a ghost B29 too so if we could organise a schedule it would be one hell of an airshow.

Joking aside, the mountain rescue gets called out to the B29 site on a regular basis after people claim to see it crash. It’s not just locals who’ve reported it (most of them ignore it now) people from further out, even abroad have seen it when visiting or passing through the area.

As for the Lancaster, it supposedly haunts the Derwent area. Rumour has it a Lancaster crashed into Derwent Water while practising for the Dams raid, and it’s still down there. I’ve never really looked into it, apart from one bit- I can’t get the EDxxx serialed Lancasters to tally up with the number supposedly built…

serial range ED303 – EE202

620 Avro Lancasters ordered from A.V.Roe (Chadderton) in 1941 and built from November 1942 to June 1943 as 129 B.I and 491 B.III varying up to ED782 all as B.III from ED783

I keep counting I only get 618. 129 B.I’s and 489 B.III’s

????

Dave,

There’s a York at Cosford as well.

Regards, kev35

I found this page some years ago. I cannot vouch for the authenticity of the contents but it appears to have originated in a Russian Aviation magazine in the 1990’s….

http://vvs.hobbyvista.com/ModelArticles/Duffy/Lancaster/index.php

In some ways it does fit with the stories/legends/rumours I’ve heard about the 9 and 617 Sqn Lancasters which force landed on Russian territory during Operation Paravane.

As for silent Lancs connected with top secret Vulcan replacements…an elderly couple witness this amazing new-production Lanc and then get the whole tale confirmed by a B.A.E. man at an airshow? Erm, no, I’ll not voice my thoughts…

Thanks Landyman. Has anyone got more details or facts?

Just one further thought on the ghost Lancaster – was the Duxford Avro York, or any other Yorks, still flying in the 1980’s? How many Yorks still survive? Or is the DX example the only survivor of these wartime leviathans?

Thanks for that Vicky ten.

Geoff

IIRC I think there was a drama in the early eighties, I think based on Jack Currie’s book Lancaster Target called ‘ The Lancaster Legend’ cant rememberwho was in it though

What,in the 1980 – 1990’s,i think somebody may just notice the odd lancaster bombing something then LOL,mind you it could be the answer to the RAF cutbacks.

Hi Dave,
this is just supposition but i would think it to be an ex RAF lanc that has been force landed in or around russian terratory that they (the russians) have repaired and used. i belive the RAF flew out to russia and bombed targets in northern Germany that would normaly be out of range on the way there – re-fueled and re-armed and bombed another target on the way back. could be wrong about this though.
Greg

Can I just ask, what is the story with this Murmansk Lancaster that tested British defences? Was it operated by the RAF? Or by the Soviets? I don’t quite understand. Was it based at Murmansk? Or captured there?

:confused: :confused: :confused:

I remember being told about a black Lancaster on display in the naval dockyard at Murmansk in the early 1990’s so I guess anything is possible.

It might not be that far fetched to assume their were several black Lancaster doing the rounds in the years after ww2.

Lets face out of some 4000 that were built its not like people would miss a couple that were used for “black projets” or whatever.

back to the oiginal post, could it have been NX611?
also i know this is highly unlikely but has anyone got any pics of the soviet black lanc? i feel a model kit conversion coming on.
Greg

I remember being told about a black Lancaster on display in the naval dockyard at Murmansk in the early 1990’s so I guess anything is possible.

Mat finish.

Mark

Not wishing to steal someones photo!, hows about a link Ruskin Air Services

Indeed, Good old Golf-Abel Golf Howe Yoke. Used to have a T-shirt many years ago with ‘Ruskin Air Services’ & their logo on the front. Does anyone have any good photos of ‘G-AGHY’? in Ruskin colours? I have a poor one from Biggin Hill ’82 taken from 7 o’clock & at a distance.

Geoff.

Wouldn’t mind seeing it again, PM me mate.

Wanna copy of episode 1 then…?

I think there were 10 in all ?