1st person shoot 'em ups

I’d say Battlefield 1942 WWII Anthology (Battlefield 1942, Battlefield 1942: road to Rome, Battlefield 1942: Secret weapons).

Or you’d try America’s Army (http://www.americasarmy.com/) Really cool game, great graphics and free to download.

Okay, Operation Flashpoint has me beat. I breezed through the Soviet infantry missions and I had lots of fun doing it. But now I’m stuck in a mission where I have to drive a tank 🙁 . Now I love tanks but I’ve never wanted to be a tanker. As a result, I’m stuck. I just can’t do the tank part of the mission and I’m not having fun trying. Anybody got any tips on how to quickly get this tanking over and done with so that I can go back to running around shooting people?

my fav has to be Forgotten Hope for bf1942 it is brilliant, best ww2 realism mod. Love flying me 110s on the battle of britain map 🙂

Bf2 is very good also, There are alot of good mods being released like project reality (british mod), desert combat 2, and forgotten hope 2 for bf2

Check out this project reality trailer… it shows what ingame bf2 looks like 🙂

http://www.realitymod.com/Trailer/

I’ve finally got round to playing Operation Flashpoint and I love it! There were a few teething problems as I tried to set it up correctly for my computer and I was a bit disappointed by the graphics 🙁 … But its great really in spite of those negatives. I’ve only done a couple of missions (I keep getting killed) but already I’m hooked! I love that mission where you and your squad take the village and kill the Ruskies then have to run away from the T-80s. Man tanks are hard! They must have killed me 4 or 5 times! I love it!

Glad to be of help mate!

Now… for my consultation fee… 😉 😀

BARNOWL

It’s not an FPS, but try Mercenaries – sweet, sweet carnage! :diablo:

I’ve finally got round to playing Operation Flashpoint and I love it! There were a few teething problems as I tried to set it up correctly for my computer and I was a bit disappointed by the graphics 🙁 … But its great really in spite of those negatives. I’ve only done a couple of missions (I keep getting killed) but already I’m hooked! I love that mission where you and your squad take the village and kill the Ruskies then have to run away from the T-80s. Man tanks are hard! They must have killed me 4 or 5 times! I love it!

Just bought Medal of Honour battle chest, with the original game and two expansions for about $40.

Return to castle wolfenstein is very good too, and I very much reccomend Max Payne for its storyline alone.

I didn’t really like the Tom Clancy rogue spear type games. Way too much planning.

Can’t wait for Stalker…

There is another game I am looking forward to, but can’t remember the name of. It is set in about 400 square kms of jungle in central or south america and it looks really good.

Played Battlefield Vietnam very briefly and enjoyed what I saw.

Dues Ex is very good, if a little old now. The sequel should now be budget too.

Dont get BF2, BF2 is a cheap knockoff of Desert Combat. Just get BF42 and download all the good mods like Desert Combat, Forgotten Hope, BF1918, BF Pirates and Galactic Conquest.

Ghost Recon- This game is the ultimate in realism. The AI is unnervingly realistic. The online multiplayer has a strong following. You really got to be good to play this one.

Counterstrike (an HL mod)- Its the ultimate classic, there are about a 1000 maps you can download for it. Some other good HL mods are Day of Defeat and The Ship.

My other favorites are:

Return to Castle Wolfenstien
Max Paine (Max Paine 2 is good but very short)
SoF2
Unreal2
Rouge Spear series
Chaser (I strongly recommend this one)
Medal of Honor
HL2
GTA series
Mafia
Americas Army (this ones a free download)
FarCry

I expect that I’ll probably get all the upgrade packages that you’ve mentioned if I like the basic game enough (and it sounds like I will). Unfortunately I really am skint at the moment so I can’t go around making hasty purchases – hence this thread.

You can pretty much pick up any weapon from the other guys or your own fallen soldiers. Would recommend you keep a special look out for officers (yours and theirs). You will get a radio warning if you lose your officer… when you do grab his binos… ir really makes a difference. I personally got rapidly bored with the missions in the first game, but there is a mission editor that allows you to put yourself on one of the huge islands and put a few empty vehicles to drive around in and a few enemies to kill.
A great plus is that for most missions the limits on where you can walk basically equate with water and the islands are huge. To give you an idea of the flexibility of the missions, one of the earlier missions has you as a grunt heading out to secure a small village with some houses on the side of a hill and a few other houses further down within about 150m or so. You arrive from one side and wipe out the enemy units in and around the group of houses up the top only to find that the enemy has moved up armour and more troops to the lower group of houses (after about 3-4 minutes) … which you weren’t expecting and basically your unit gets wiped out most of the time. At this time you get ordered to evacuate to a position on your map for helo evac.
I have found that if I pop up and fire at the single BMP first (which should destroy it and prevent it driving up and killing you) and then duck down run for a few minutes and attack (ie fire one or two more rockets) from the direction the armour came from and then go back up to the upper village and fire again, picking up RPGs where I can find them (off my own dead troops and enemy troops) I can wipe out the vehicles and most enemy troops from a distance. (Usually at least three hits to kill a T-72). It is vital to have Binos as some troops by the time you see them… they see you…
Anyway the whole expectation of the level is for you to run to a coordinate to catch a helo ride out of there as soon as the enemy armour arrives, but if you make it to the helo it gets shot down. The way I do it I end up clearing the village and winning that way. (The helo gets shot down by a ZSU-23-4, which you can go and hunt if you do it my way… 🙂 )
I love the flexibility. Of course without binos you can be easily caught by surprise and the first you will know of enemy troops is the first hit you get… that tells you you are in trouble… by the time you have had a look around to see where the shot came from the second shot usually kills… unless it was a tank or a grenade and then one shot kills. It is much better if you have command of a few other troops as you can command them to keep a watch and they will tell you if they see something. (Obviously they “see” better than you do… they see targets through smoke and light bushes etc).

Garry mentioned Red Faction…the second one wasn’t all that good, but the first Red Faction is a fantastic game. Don’t have the key you need to get through the door at the end of the level? No longer a problem! Anything in the game can be blown up, so just blast a hole through the wall and bypass that door!

My main reservation about Red Faction is that you can blow enormous holes in Martian bedrock but can’t destroy the material they build the office cubicals from that are less than a few cms thick… Still it is a move forward… and it was fun in multiplayer blowing up the ground under where the rockets spawned so to get the rockets you trapped yourself in a hole you couldn’t get out of… :diablo:

Personally I liked it because the weapons were made up so I didn’t have any problems with it (like in IGI where the Dragunov is silenced, but without a silencer actually being fitted, and the AK holds 32 rounds in its mag and the mechanism is on the wrong side… etc etc.)

Even OpFp has a few problems. The Soviets didn’t use the RPG-75. That was a Czech weapon I think. Also the standard AK-74 doesn’t have a 3 round burst option. And the BMP-2 has the commander in the turret, not the hull as in the BMP-1, and the Mi-8 has a gun, and the Mi-24D has a 50 cal gatling, not a 30mm and it carrys rather more than 500 rounds. (And tanks carry more than 500 rounds of MG ammo, and the tanks except for the T-72 and T-80 should have 4 crew members… etc etc)

Garry mentioned Red Faction…the second one wasn’t all that good, but the first Red Faction is a fantastic game. Don’t have the key you need to get through the door at the end of the level? No longer a problem! Anything in the game can be blown up, so just blast a hole through the wall and bypass that door!

Garry & Barnowl,

Thanks for your reviews. I’m really looking forward to monday (apparently the day it will arrive). Probably I’ll end up playing it all day and get no work done whatsoever 🙁 .

Garry,

I expect that I’ll probably get all the upgrade packages that you’ve mentioned if I like the basic game enough (and it sounds like I will). Unfortunately I really am skint at the moment so I can’t go around making hasty purchases 🙁 🙁 – hence this thread.

The damn T-72’s will be the bane of your life. If you hear a call out for one of these guys, then see the trooper next to you pulling out the RPG the advice would be to run away VERY fast and hide behind a tree.

It’s not that fast paced I grant you, but as for realism, second to none.

After reading your first post Ink I was going to suggest Operation Flashpoint, but you stated you wanted fast paced action. That is when I thought of Call of duty, but it is set in WWII.

Should point out what I meant by this… OpFp isn’t an easy game. You can’t just wander around like you are bullet proof. If you are careful it is a great game. As a hint the most valuable item on the battlefield is a pair of binoculars. Get a hold of a pair of them and you can see the bad guys before they get to the range where they start firing at you. Then you can plan a proper attack where you don’t get ripped to shreds in the first second. You really need two solid hits on most targets to ensure a kill. Firing at armoured vehicles in open country is called suicide… An APC can be destroyed with one hit from an RPG, but tanks require multiple hits so don’t annoy them unless you can hit and hide and then hit again from a different direction and then hide again.

After reading your first post Ink I was going to suggest Operation Flashpoint, but you stated you wanted fast paced action. That is when I thought of Call of duty, but it is set in WWII. It has three threads to the game and include British, American and Soviet threads… obviously I love the Soviet threads. The first Soviet mission is crossing the river at Stalingrad and being issued with 5 rounds of ammo just like in enemy at the gates. It is a great game and very exciting, but obviously set during WWII.
Regarding OpFp I got really excited by the demo when I first saw it, but the actual game left a little to be desired. From a technical point of view there are only a few problems with its accuracy, but the main problem I have with it is that the main character is not very appealing and changes for no explicible reason several times during the game. The second installment called Red Hammer is much better game. You play an ex spetsnaz soldier thrown out of spetsnaz and busted down to grunt. (This could be used to explain your ability to drive or fly almost anything… 🙂 ). You then manage to survive to get reinstated back into spetsnaz and therefore get a range of realistic missions. (Spetsnaz, as a recon force are the closest thing the Soviets had to western snipers, so sniper missions are OK for this character as well as grunt missions).

My favourite part of the first game is because you are always fighting the Soviets then there are plenty of soviet weapons to pickup and use. The second game (well actually an upgrade) has better missions that make more sense. (in the first game you start out as a green recruit, then you change into various different people like a tank driver and spec ops guy). The third upgrade, call resistance adds new weapons, equipment, and abilities. Just as an example with all three installed you can put weapons in vehicles so you can create caches of weapons around the place.

Other first person shootemups to look out for include System Shock 2, which is very old but holds up well. (not great graphics but great story and will take you more than a day to complete even after you have beaten it more than once), and “No one lives for ever” is fun too, though don’t expect weapons to be accurately depicted.
I quite enjoyed the early delta force games, but again graphics were not amazing.
Also there was an old game called Outbreak that was written by the same group (GSC or something) that are making Stalker. It has a unified multipurpose gun that can fire different ammos types… ie the first gun has three options… SMG, Shotgun, and laser modes. The second gun is bigger and adds rocket launcher, sniper, and flare launcher (for inside in the dark), etc etc. The third adds mines and lots of other stuff. It is set in the near future and you are basically ukrainian mercs fighting an alien invasion. There are two of you in every mission… you control one directly and the other watches your back. You can jump between them and when in one you can give basic commands to the other, like attack, guard this area, guard me, hold fire and open fire.
Graphics aren’t great but a good game.
There are also the Red faction games as well… bought red faction II the other week for $10.

No problems mate, you won’t regret this purchase, I can tell you- I occasionally dig it out, and i’ve completed it 7 times already!

Speaking of which I might dig it out now.

Have fun and let us all know what you think.

BARNOWL

I decided not to go for anything WWII based in the end (even though avoiding WWII based games was quite difficult – hardly anything else seems to get made). A copy of Operation Flashpoint (- Game of the Year Edition) is currently winging its way to me. I’ll let you guys know what I think of it.

PS Thanks Barnowl.

Both the Call of Duty Games. At present trying to get through the Russian Campaign of version 2.

Martin

Call of Duty is good but if you want interaction with your squad try Brothers in Arms:Road to Hill 30 i think that’s what it is called. Great gameplay and you have to tell your squad to cover you or where to move. It’s brilliant.

I’ve got that on PS2 – never ever got into it! 🙁

Call of Duty is good but if you want interaction with your squad try Brothers in Arms:Road to Hill 30 i think that’s what it is called. Great gameplay and you have to tell your squad to cover you or where to move. It’s brilliant.

Not that I know of mate, but the ai is so realistic that youll think that you are playing online.

It really is that good- troops take advantage of the terrain, look for cover, dont just stand there and spray rounds forever, run out of ammo, get killed, take objectives without you explicitly ordering them to do so, talk amongst themselves.

The storyline’s a cracker to boot.

Glad to be of service.

BARNOWL