October 9, 2004 at 1:12 pm
Just a snap over the fence at International Alloys in Aylesbury circa 1957.
I think I can identify four aircraft types here. How about you?
Mark
By: Mark12 - 10th October 2004 at 17:22
any more??
Any more what?
This sort of stuff?
About a dozen Lincolns.
Mark
By: Peter - 10th October 2004 at 15:51
any more??
By: Mark12 - 10th October 2004 at 15:24
yep sabre for sure… even before I saw the sabre pics too I thought I bet it is a sabre..Well done everyone!
I enjoyed that. 🙂
Mark
By: Peter - 10th October 2004 at 15:03
yep sabre for sure… even before I saw the sabre pics too I thought I bet it is a sabre..Well done everyone!
By: Mark12 - 10th October 2004 at 14:53
I wasn’t so far off! 😀
EJ669
Mark
By: DazDaMan - 10th October 2004 at 14:19
Tempest wing
I wasn’t so far off! 😀
By: Ant.H - 10th October 2004 at 13:40
Even before I saw the complete Sabre pictures a couple of posts above,my thinking was that the fuselage was from a Sabre. Seeing those two pics,I’m now convinced.
By: 682al - 10th October 2004 at 11:33
Your new Sabre photos look pretty convincing. And I’ve just realised that the “Meteor” nose I thought I saw at the right hand edge of the photo is in fact a De H product…so much for my jet era recognition skills!
By: Mark12 - 10th October 2004 at 10:29
Could it be a Sabre?
Cheers
Cees
Cees,
I see where you are coming from. I know the Sabre went through extensive development with fuselage section change for larger engines etc. Here are a couple of images located on the net that show a distinct construction similarity. Maybe the International Alloys ‘bit’ is from an early RAF small engine variant.
Any other takers on the Sabre theme?
Mark
By: HP57 - 10th October 2004 at 09:30
Could it be a Sabre?
Cheers
Cees
By: Mark12 - 10th October 2004 at 09:07
That fuselage section
As I first posted; I am happy to be corrected on this one.
There was a degree of logic here, lots of Lancaster front ends – where are the rest of them etc.
On this my first visit I did not climb the wire. I have another photo somewhere of this trip and there were lots of Sunderland sections. On subsequent visits it was wall to wall Lincolns.
I have blown up the section and I must say it now takes on a slightly different form. Proportionally to the Lancaster sections I would have thought it was too deep to be a Meteor but somebody out there will know and that is the fun of the forum.
Mark
By: 682al - 10th October 2004 at 03:03
Peter,
This was several years ago. The website is:
and I can’t now recall what I was searching on. Probably “Lancaster” or “bomber” or some such combination. Try it for yourself.
I just did and ended up with another fire rescue training film. This one is from the late ’50s or early ’60s and features shiny red (Thorneycroft?) fire engines, foam retardant, rotary disc cutters and Lincoln airframes.
And it’s in colour!
Isn’t the internet wonderful?
By: Peter - 10th October 2004 at 01:16
682al
do you have a link??
Mark12 I dont think of myself as an “expert” but workinh on lancasters for 12 years I asure you that is not a section of lancaster fuselage..
I think 682al is correct, looks more like a meteor
By: 682al - 10th October 2004 at 00:57
Sitting between the top two Lancaster front ends.
When I first saw the photo, my immediate thoughts on that section was Meteor fuselage. Definitely not Lincoln/Lancaster.
I think there are also some Lanc centre sections or wing sections behind the stack of noses, so probably there were other fuselage sections in there as well, in other words, complete dismantled Lancasters.
Probably Mark VII’s, held in M.U.s until the early fifties, of which a few found their way to brief stardom in The Dam Busters and Appointment in London.
From the Pathe news web-site, I downloaded an RAF instruction film on rescuing aircrew from crashed aircraft. The first section features a brand new looking Lancaster BVII, sitting on the grass with retracted u/c. It is set on fire and then hacked into by fire crew. The second scene features a BI/III. This one is sitting on the grass, too, but the props are bent backwards as though it had actually bellied in. It gets the same treatment.
I just broke off typing this to watch the film again…alright, common sense tells you they were just worthless scrap airframes fulfilling one last useful role before the smelter got them, but it still breaks yer ‘art…
‘night all, don’t have too many bad dreams.
By: Eddie - 9th October 2004 at 23:53
Check your e-mail, Mark… something interesting in there 😉
I think Peter knows Lancasters pretty well! Much better than I do, anyway.
By: Mark12 - 9th October 2004 at 23:36
Fighter?
Mark12
i see now..
it is too small a diameter for lanc.. maybe a fighter??
Interestingly the lanc nose sections are in bomber command colors. wonder what squad they were from?
My money is still on it being Lancaster/Lincoln rear fuselage section.
Where are our experts when we need them?
Mark
By: Peter - 9th October 2004 at 19:24
lanc section
Mark12
i see now..
it is too small a diameter for lanc.. maybe a fighter??
Interestingly the lanc nose sections are in bomber command colors. wonder what squad they were from?
By: Mark12 - 9th October 2004 at 19:21
Where do you see this mid or rear section?
Sitting between the top two Lancaster front ends.
What say you of this fuselage section?
Mark
By: Peter - 9th October 2004 at 19:17
Mark12
Mark12 I believe we have here:-
Where do you see this mid or rear section?
By: Mark12 - 9th October 2004 at 18:54
I believe we have here:-
Lancaster front end x4
Lancaster mid or rear end x1
Venom wing and pod x1
Tempest wing x1
Bristol Buckmaster front end x1
I am happy to be corrected. 🙂
Mark