200 7E7s ordered

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That is, according to this Article

Any idea what the MTOW is, runway length, etc…etc..?

Well, the basic projected figures are:

Seating: 217 passengers in three-class configuration

Range: 8,500 nautical miles (15,700 km)

Configuration: Twin aisle

Cross Section: 226 inches (574 centimeters)

Wing Span: 193 feet (59 meters)

Length:182 feet (56 meters)

Cruise Speed:Mach 0.85

Cargo Capacity After Passenger Bags: 5 pallets + 5 LD3s

Maximum Takeoff Weight: 480,000 lbs

You forgot to mention that the 7E7 is ideal for short-haul ops…………. 😀

I think Airbus could upgrade the A332 to a leve lin which the /e/ is only slightly more economic. And in that case I could imagine that many airlines would decide to vote for the less risky, because tried, alternative.

But then again, people may go for the benefits the 7E7 will give. Longer range, more capacity if needed, more fuel efficient, yadda yadda

[QUOTE=Bmused55]That is, according to this Article

Any idea what the MTOW is, runway length, etc…etc..?

Whenever a plane manufacturer ‘productionises’ a design, the first 20 or so models usually have small, usually harmless glitches, most often due to issues with outside suppliers.

Things such as the microwave ovens not working properly, warning lights coming on for no reason, in-flight entertainment computer playing up. All drives paying passengers mad of course.

I’m not quite sure what problems VS had, but it would be something along these lines. Usually first customers get big discounts to flight test the early models.

Talking about VS liking 4×4’s, they’ve been talking to Boeing about buying at least 20 777-3ER’s.

The 773ER would look very above average in the VS livery!

lets hope VS have forgiven Airbus for the start-up problems on their first batch of 346’s.

What types of problems were these? The same that Iberia are allegedly having?

I think Airbus could upgrade the A332 to a leve lin which the /e/ is only slightly more economic. And in that case I could imagine that many airlines would decide to vote for the less risky, because tried, alternative.

Talking about VS liking 4×4’s, they’ve been talking to Boeing about buying at least 20 777-3ER’s. Airbus are offering 20 346’s. Airbus seem to have the upper hand in this deal according to reports, lets hope VS have forgiven Airbus for the start-up problems on their first batch of 346’s.

With the 7E7 it is interesting to note what effect it will have on the market for the 332 which has been Airbus’ top seller in the past few years. Put it this way, would you buy a 332 when you can now order a 7E7 that is 20% cheaper to fly? Analysts have blamed strong 332 sales on killing the 767 market. So it’s all out war on medium twins at the moment. Airbus have responded to the 7E7 threat by offering a lightweight version of the 332, but details on this seem thin at the moment.

Transport

May 23, 2004

Virgin eyes $1bn Airbus contract
Dominic O’Connell

VIRGIN ATLANTIC is in the final stages of talks with Airbus and Boeing over a $1 billion order for 20 aircraft that it wants to help expand its long-haul operations.
Talks are continuing despite Virgin’s decision, revealed last week by The Sunday Times, to delay deliveries of its new Airbus A380 super-jumbos. Virgin confirmed this week that it would not start flights with the 550-seat aircraft until the end of 2007, rather than in 2006 as had been planned.

The talks with Boeing and Airbus centre on replacing the airline’s nine Airbus A340-300 aircraft, and on providing additional planes to cope with expected growth.

Virgin recently paid about £20m for new runway slots at Heathrow airport, and it plans extra services to the Caribbean, the Far East and Australia.

Virgin yesterday confirmed that it was in negotiations with the rival manufacturers, and said it expected to announce a deal towards the end of the summer. The first deliveries of the 20 new aircraft are not expected until 2006, and will continue over the following four to five years.

The order would be the largest by a British airline for some time, beating Flybe’s £800m contract for Bombardier turboprop planes last year.

In its recent aircraft purchases, Virgin has been an Airbus stalwart, buying the A380 and new versions of the A340. But industry sources said last night that it could this time go for Boeing and buy a stretched version of its large twin-jet, the 777. A Virgin spokesman would not comment on the progress of the talks.

Air France said on Friday that it, too, would delay the delivery of its Airbus A380s, but by just four months.

The company said the hold-up was caused by delays to the construction of a terminal at Charles de Gaulle airport in Paris.

I hope Condor (Thomas Cook) will buy some te replace the B757-200s.

Even with the majority of large US carriers bleeding money the 7E7 could still possibly find some interested buyers here. Fuel prices aren’t going to be coming down anytime soon so a fuel efficient aircraft like the 7E7 make perfect sense for an airline that has significant international/long haul routes. It won’t be UAL or US Airways but perhaps Continental or Delta?

thanks greekdude1, been waiting for that answer for a while now! Hehe.

..are virgin getting any?

I doubt it. Virgin likes 4-holer haulers, hence the slogan “4 Engines 4 Long Haul.”

762 stopped production some time ago.

It did, however, it was subsequently re-opened for Continental about 5 or 6 years ago. All of CO’s 762’s are relatively new with the 777-like interior found in the 764’s.

The 762 is not offered actively, but if an airline wants to buy them Boeing will make them. Productionwise there is barely a difference between a 762 and a 763, just a few plugs more or less.

Wasn’t the tanker plane offered to the USAF also based on the 762?

Aeromexico fly 767-200

762 stopped production some time ago.

IS the 762 still in production? Any orders? Doesn’t the Mexican airline operate them?

I learned today in Economics lesson that the cost of assets is spreaded on the estimated age the object is going to reach before it is going to be replaced. Does it also work in the airline business?

Yes, an aircraft will be depreciated in the airline’s or the lessor’s accounts in the same way as other assets. Most would have a special way of determining the fall in value of the aircraft over its useful life to reflect the fact that the greatest depreciation is when the aircraft is new.

AAs 767 fleet is very new, they are receiveing about 2 a month currently to replace the A300s.

I am on about their 762’s

AAs 767 fleet is very new, they are receiveing about 2 a month currently to replace the A300s.

Does it also work in the airline business?

It works like that in every industry and for all assets. Be it airplanes, cars or buildings. A lot can be told about this subject, if you want to know more about it just ask me next time you speak to me on MSN.