.303 Ammunition

Hello Cotteswold!

I think all your .303/7.92mm questions have been answered.

I will only add that I recall the front of one of your ammo tanks being found with all rounds impacted forwards leaving a pattern of round holes where the bullet heads had poked through.

I am sure that Mrs Elkington was very pleased her young son had decided to part company with his Hurricane!

I snoozed & just missed out on .303 at $219/1000rnds 🙁

Still have a few tho 🙂

There was also an Eley-Kynoch factory at Edmonton in North London. I remember the Shot towers where the lead was dropped to form shotgun pellets. not sure if that factory ever produced 303 ammunition though.

I think you will find that the firm Kynoch was a Birmingham firm. As I remember it was situated in Aston, which as you know is an area of Birmingham.
But they were a very important part of the midlands war effort.

As is rightly pointed out it amalgamated with Eley when I seem to remember them still producing shotgun cartridges. Though they probably still produced shells for the M.O.D post WWII.
Regards

Yes my favorite cartridge was the Eley grand prix,no 6 shot,a good all-rounder.:diablo:

Check this website out—http://www.dave-cushman.net/shot/303hist.html.
all the infos there:cool:

Kynochs ammunition Manufacturers

I think you will find that the firm Kynoch was a Birmingham firm. As I remember it was situated in Aston, which as you know is an area of Birmingham.
But they were a very important part of the midlands war effort.

As is rightly pointed out it amalgamated with Eley when I seem to remember them still producing shotgun cartridges. Though they probably still produced shells for the M.O.D post WWII.
Regards

ROF Blackpole still standing in part and now Blackpole industrial estate.
Managed by Kings Norton metal Co,during the war.

Thanks for your replies.

Is Kynoch a manufacturers name then?

I seem to remember that Kynoch (later Eley-Kynoch) used to have a factory out on the marshes in Essex; maybe Ptsea?

VII = Mark VII
K = Kynoch
39 = 1939
^ possibly R^L =Royal Laboratories = Woolwich Arsenal

Mark VII only authorised for use on the Vickers machine gun due to higher charge content.
Amendment–OOPS,Mark 8 for vickers.
The VIIC picture,”C” denotes cordite

I believe the date stamp was given in full ie “1939” on all .303 ammunition suitable for use in aircraft guns. These rounds were manufactured to a higher spec than rifle ammunition and identified as such by this dating system. During the latter stages of the war this requirement was superseded as all .303 ammunition was manufactured to the same standard.

I believe your rounds dated “39” are .303 rifle ammunition.

Kind regards, Malcolm.

Yep, more of a manufacturing plant location really (see Google for detail) 🙂

Thanks for your replies.

Is Kynoch a manufacturers name then?

VII = Mark VII
K = Kynoch
39 = 1939
^ possibly R^L =Royal Laboratories = Woolwich Arsenal

Can’t say anything else, except that the truncated one absolutely matches my finds from Whitstable – broken off part-way up.

Adrian

.303 shell cases found on Walton on the Naze beach

These are the .303 shell cases I found on Walton on the Naze beach in the early 80’s.

I have written the visible text in the image.

Can these be dated from this to a particular mark of bullet?

Are they spent shells from an aircraft, or equally could they be from a soldiers rifle?

Good point – I’ve never been anywhere even close to fuel fire, and I have no plans to try it!

Incidentally, I’m just about to send you a PM about something else – I think the answer is no, but keep your eyes peeled.

Adrian

Too close, man, too close!!

Like this, but on the other side, I presume?

http://www.hawker-restorations-ltd.c…a/HURY/59.html
(shamelessly cribbed from the “not a Spitfire” thread).

Good job he didn’t hit the fuselage one!

Adrian

Armour, Adrian?

No – it hit the starboard fuel tank. BBQ!!

In firing target rifle .303 & 762 at Bisley for many years, I have never seen any major distortion of a shell casing, other than maybe very minor damage due to corrosion, the breech keeps them intact. Similarly with autos, stens, brens, etc., although on very rare occasions a link jam or breakage could cause one or two buckled cases on the broken link. Hope this helps.

Cheers Brian.;)