May 14, 2012 at 9:52 am
I wonder if anyone could help me trace the relevance of the markings i have on this cigar case i have recently come across.From the aircraft code “P” and it being a Liberator i believe this to be 311 Czech Sqd.But i wondered upon the initials,and the relevance of Sorrento.Any help would be greatfully appriciated. Thanks Alan.


By: antoni - 17th May 2012 at 11:21
There is only one letter P, which is the individual letter of the aircraft. It could belong to any squadron. Only if you have a serial number could you find out the squadron or squadrons it belonged to.
By the middle of 1942 it was realised that the use of squadron codes was an aid to German intelligence in working out the order of battle of the RAF. It was proposed to stop using them and the various commands were invited to give reasons if they wished to continue using them. In December 1942 all RAF commands, including overseas, with the exception of Fighter Command and Bomber Command were ordered to stop using squadron codes. A little later Coastal Command started to use a numeral, 1, 2, etc, to indicate squadrons where there were two or more squadrons based at the same airfield. The numeral and individual letter were always separated by the roundel. When the first strike wings were formed Coastal Command petitioned to use squadron codes again as they now had aircraft from different airfields operating together. Their request was granted and squadron codes came into use again. Sometimes squadrons used their previous codes, in other cases they were given new ones.
By: antoni - 17th May 2012 at 11:21
There is only one letter P, which is the individual letter of the aircraft. It could belong to any squadron. Only if you have a serial number could you find out the squadron or squadrons it belonged to.
By the middle of 1942 it was realised that the use of squadron codes was an aid to German intelligence in working out the order of battle of the RAF. It was proposed to stop using them and the various commands were invited to give reasons if they wished to continue using them. In December 1942 all RAF commands, including overseas, with the exception of Fighter Command and Bomber Command were ordered to stop using squadron codes. A little later Coastal Command started to use a numeral, 1, 2, etc, to indicate squadrons where there were two or more squadrons based at the same airfield. The numeral and individual letter were always separated by the roundel. When the first strike wings were formed Coastal Command petitioned to use squadron codes again as they now had aircraft from different airfields operating together. Their request was granted and squadron codes came into use again. Sometimes squadrons used their previous codes, in other cases they were given new ones.
By: Alan Mason - 16th May 2012 at 20:10
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A Consolidated Liberator GR Mark IIIA of No. 224 Squadron RAF, flying back to its base at Beaulieu, Hampshire, after escorting a North African convoy.
Just done a quick google after taking on board the comments above and found this !.
Alan.
By: Alan Mason - 16th May 2012 at 20:10
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A Consolidated Liberator GR Mark IIIA of No. 224 Squadron RAF, flying back to its base at Beaulieu, Hampshire, after escorting a North African convoy.
Just done a quick google after taking on board the comments above and found this !.
Alan.
By: Alan Mason - 16th May 2012 at 19:52
Thank you very much indeed for your help.
Alan.
By: Alan Mason - 16th May 2012 at 19:52
Thank you very much indeed for your help.
Alan.
By: ladybegood - 16th May 2012 at 19:33
Interesting, whilst ‘PP’ was the squadron code for 311 Sqn, the squadron had no connection with Sorrento and no Czech airman had the initials WJW:
http://fcafa.wordpress.com/2010/05/19/w/
so I would be inclined to disregard the 311 Sqn connection.
By: ladybegood - 16th May 2012 at 19:33
Interesting, whilst ‘PP’ was the squadron code for 311 Sqn, the squadron had no connection with Sorrento and no Czech airman had the initials WJW:
http://fcafa.wordpress.com/2010/05/19/w/
so I would be inclined to disregard the 311 Sqn connection.
By: otis - 16th May 2012 at 19:05
From what I remember from my visit, Sorrento was a hub for selling both Limoncello liquor and also full of shops selling locally carved wooden boxes and furniture, etc.
In much the same way that every other shop in Bavaria sells cuckoo clocks and wooden Xmas carvings.
By: otis - 16th May 2012 at 19:05
From what I remember from my visit, Sorrento was a hub for selling both Limoncello liquor and also full of shops selling locally carved wooden boxes and furniture, etc.
In much the same way that every other shop in Bavaria sells cuckoo clocks and wooden Xmas carvings.
By: Alan Mason - 16th May 2012 at 18:10
Just bumping this in case anyone can help at all,certainly regarding the significance of Sorrento regarding 311 squadron.
Thank you all Alan.
By: Alan Mason - 16th May 2012 at 18:10
Just bumping this in case anyone can help at all,certainly regarding the significance of Sorrento regarding 311 squadron.
Thank you all Alan.
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