November 14, 2008 at 1:37 am
Any ideas as to the ID on the aircraft engine and crane?
http://www.28dayslater.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=34422
By: N.Wotherspoon - 17th November 2008 at 08:48
That Gun is VERY interesting, It looks like (correct me if I am wrong) a Naval 4″ Deck Gun , from the WW1 Period, These Guns were also used in Coastal defenses in WW2…
Hi Merkle – We were discussing this on our way up to visit a HGW P-38 site this weekend – I’m no expert on heavy ordnance (well except 20mm :D) But 4″ naval gun of WW1 vintage was my conclusion also – think the coastal defense theory sounds pretty plausible too.
By: DaveF68 - 15th November 2008 at 11:51
That Gun is VERY interesting, It looks like (correct me if I am wrong) a Naval 4″ Deck Gun , from the WW1 Period, These Guns were also used in Coastal defenses in WW2, We had 2 of them up on a Battery off Portishead Point , Defending the Port, I was trying for years to find one to place “Back” on the Point as a Memorial, and they are Very rare, I wouldnt be suprised if the Royal Naval Museum Organisations wouldnt be interested in it,
and Or any Home defence Coastal Fort emplacments,
Don’t know much about Naval guns, but given where I think the location is, there were several Coastal defence installations on the islands on the Forth
By: Alan Clark - 15th November 2008 at 01:20
Nick
The crane looks like the later AEC/Coles that Millom have.
By: merkle - 14th November 2008 at 23:08
Naval Gun, and Gerry aircraft Loss
That Gun is VERY interesting, It looks like (correct me if I am wrong) a Naval 4″ Deck Gun , from the WW1 Period, These Guns were also used in Coastal defenses in WW2, We had 2 of them up on a Battery off Portishead Point , Defending the Port, I was trying for years to find one to place “Back” on the Point as a Memorial, and they are Very rare, I wouldnt be suprised if the Royal Naval Museum Organisations wouldnt be interested in it,
and Or any Home defence Coastal Fort emplacments,
Shame Portishead never got one of its guns back, as it is or was one of the oldest Forts in the Bristol Channel, infact if not the oldest , Going as far back as Roman times, and as a actual fort with Cannon from elizabethen times, Then used in the English Civil war firing on royalist ships, later rebuilt to defend against Napoleon, and then Updated to Armstrong Guns in the Victorian age, ,and re-instated throughout WW2, ,Now Buried under tons of fly ash from the old power station, But the “Tops” of the Gun emplacement are still there today, Just the rest is buried,Would love to see it uncovered 😀
My Uncle who served there swore blind he saw a gerry aircraft dive into the sea, just off the portishead Point , But i can find NO record of it, he said it dived out of the cloud, streaming smoke, after a ensueing Battle above the clouds, twin engined he says, But its miffed me for years, all I can find is I read somewhere that a british fighter pilot engaged a gerry, I think 92 sqn ??,but lost him when he went through the clouds, in the ensueing battle between our fighters and there bombers, it may have been the Me110 Raid on Parnells, But certainly No record of a lost german aircraft in that area in that fashion.
My Uncle (now deceased) often told me this story, and he was a reselute Christian, so I dont think he lied, He was stationed there During the war Manning those Coastal Guns, Hence how he says he got to see it ,
if anyone can corroberate this story (which I doubt) I would be grateful 🙂
By: Peter - 14th November 2008 at 19:39
Thanks Nick,I think the one in the scrapyard is like the one at Millom?
By: N.Wotherspoon - 14th November 2008 at 19:25
Cranes!
Would be nice to see that crane restored
Hi Peter – You want to take a trip to Millom if you like cranes – I believe they are accumulating quite a collection – mainly with a military connection of course!
By: Peter - 14th November 2008 at 14:50
Would be nice to see that crane restored
By: Jon H - 14th November 2008 at 14:42
Wonder where the scrapyard is – first thought was Den road, Kirkcaldy, but not sure – the main shed is a bit more deteriorated than in the 2000 aerial shots
Looks like a good guess to me. Whilst stuff in the yard has been moved around the buildings etc in the background match.
Jon
By: DaveF68 - 14th November 2008 at 13:39
Wonder where the scrapyard is – first thought was Den road, Kirkcaldy, but not sure – the main shed is a bit more deteriorated than in the 2000 aerial shots
By: Creaking Door - 14th November 2008 at 10:23
Definitely post-war Bristol Hercules engines; my guess would be Valetta, Varsity or Hastings.
By: Alan Clark - 14th November 2008 at 01:52
The engines looks like a Bristol Hercules that appears to have been involved in a crash. The cylinders are Bristol and the reductions gear casing is the same as a Hercules. Although not all of the cylinders are visible counting the front row (6 visible) there only appears to be room for one out of shot which would make 14 over the two row and Hercules.
The crane looks like an AEC truck chassis and cab with a Coles crane mounted on the back.