June 2, 2004 at 9:59 pm
now this is interesting !!
a B747 with 5 contrails !!
can anyone explain where did that 5th contrail come from?? Sometimes wings make contrails, but this one doesn’t seem to be the case.
thanks
By: Whiskey Delta - 6th June 2004 at 16:20
I would like to say that the outflow theory is just that, a theory. There can easily be another explanation.
By: MEA380 - 6th June 2004 at 15:49
I see……, thanks Whiskey Delta,
I guess i got finally a convincing answer !!
Is there anything else on large planes that make a contrail? I saw once a picture showing that wings make contrails, it’s amazing, could it be?
By: Bmused55 - 6th June 2004 at 15:06
I think WD’s outflow theory has it.
unless skycruiser, as a 747 driver can say something to the contrary
By: Whiskey Delta - 6th June 2004 at 14:27
These are the pressurization relief valves on the 747. As you can tell they are not small either.

By: Whiskey Delta - 6th June 2004 at 14:23
Toilet outflows , Pressurization outflow , …..
these are small valves.
Pressuization outflows can be quite large on large jets.
I know there isn’t any scale on this picture but it’s of the 747 outflow valve.

Here’s a picture I took of a MD-80 where you can see it’s outflow valve full open on the ground. That diameter is roughly 12″.
By: wysiwyg - 6th June 2004 at 11:25
Could it be a bleed of hot air from the Aircon packs?
Yes, which would come out of……..the outflow valve!!!
By: Bmused55 - 5th June 2004 at 21:27
Could it be a bleed of hot air from the Aircon packs?
By: MEA380 - 5th June 2004 at 19:51
Toilet outflows , Pressurization outflow , …..
these are small valves , can such a small valve (or whatevere it is) make such a contrail at high altitudes? Does every hot air exit make a contrail?
I mean it’s relatively a quite big contrail, of course not compared to the engines.
By: Whiskey Delta - 5th June 2004 at 18:32
There’s a heated vent associated with the system.
By: Distiller - 5th June 2004 at 16:26
Hmm.. then my initial idea of the toilet outflow. Perhaps someone had just flushed whe this pic was taken
Usually *it* doesn’t go outside. It’s a closed cycle.
By: Whiskey Delta - 5th June 2004 at 14:15
Toilet outflows are about as wide as your thumbs thickness so I doubt it would be possible for it to create a contrail as large as that.
By: MEA380 - 5th June 2004 at 12:29
Perhaps someone had just flushed whe this pic was taken
could be, but does it make such a contrail?
By: Bmused55 - 5th June 2004 at 10:19
Hmm.. then my initial idea of the toilet outflow. Perhaps someone had just flushed whe this pic was taken
By: MEA380 - 5th June 2004 at 10:19
well well well….. it’s getting confusing here, if it’s not the Pressurization outflow valve cause a 747 has actually two valves ( like skycruiser said), then what is it then ?? :confused:
By: Mark9 - 5th June 2004 at 02:41
Tell us 😮 😮 Anna 😀
By: skycruiser - 5th June 2004 at 02:22
The APU can not be used above 20,000 on the 747.
Also, we have two Pressurization outflow valves on the 747, so maybe it’s something else.
By: Ren Frew - 5th June 2004 at 00:38
Sorry for going off subject, but is smoking allowed on Cubana flights?:D
As long as they ain’t Marlboro ! :p
By: Jeanske_SN - 4th June 2004 at 22:36
Sorry for going off subject, but is smoking allowed on Cubana flights?:D
By: MEA380 - 4th June 2004 at 22:17
That was Whiskey Delta’s answer
yes, sorry for that.
thanks guys !!
By: RIPConcorde - 4th June 2004 at 19:30
It was indeed, I thought I made it clear anough when I re-posted it, but guess not. 🙂