By: Hugh Jarse - 3rd June 2006 at 10:36
US flight time limitations (FTL’s) often require a third pilot as do the UK ones hence the 3rd driver. The “fuses” mentioned earlier are actually circuit breakers. There are some switches over there too but are only operational on the ground. It was set up to satisfy the unions but there was no retrofit to change anything. I regularly fly some of the first 757’s off the production line (Eastern was the original customer) and they don’t even have a seat there which is a feature of most other 75’s. The 767’s difference is only that the 3rd seat is always fitted.
By: greekdude1 - 3rd June 2006 at 00:58
No prob
By: RingwaySam - 3rd June 2006 at 00:53
Cheers GreekDude!
By: greekdude1 - 3rd June 2006 at 00:45
Yeah, that guy has as much control of the plane as the guy sitting in 1A, Sam. He’s just riding jumpseat and enjoying the view.
By: RingwaySam - 3rd June 2006 at 00:31
Check this – http://www.jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php?id=5740669 I thought there wasn’t any Flight engineers on 757’s but obviously theres still a few knocking about.
By: greekdude1 - 3rd June 2006 at 00:19
Ansett was the only airline to request the flight engineer station, due to union pressure, as was mentioned. There was an article on this in Airliners years ago. UA’s were always 2-crew standard. Ansetts’ 3-man 762’s were later retro-fitted to a 2-crew flight deck.
In regards to the 737-100’s being 3-man, I’m not so sure about this. I have no official documentation on the contrary but can anyone confirm or deny this?
By: Bmused55 - 3rd June 2006 at 00:03
No 757s were ever built with a Three man cockpit. Perhaps one is confusing the fuse and switch panel to the right of the cockpit (the traditional position for the FE). This is nothing more than a panel for the jump seat oxygen mask and a few fuses I think. Also, beside it is a slimline wardrobe for the pilot’s jackets and a library for the planes manuals and Airline SOP guidebooks
By: Dantheman77 - 2nd June 2006 at 21:45
Built for Ansett and United i believe, Unions didnt like the idea of a two man crew, so Boeing added an engineers station.
also the original 737-100’s had an engineers station too
By: philgatwick05 - 2nd June 2006 at 19:58
All 757’s built are 2 crew only, there were a handful of 767’s built with a flight engineer’s station i think these were for Ansett.
Were they not for United?
By: tommyinyork - 2nd June 2006 at 19:58
Im sure early to mid 80s built ones had engineers.
By: thesaint - 2nd June 2006 at 19:37
All 757’s built are 2 crew only, there were a handful of 767’s built with a flight engineer’s station i think these were for Ansett.
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