July 28, 2006 at 9:09 pm
here are some of the pics from inside the dreamliner as presented by AW .




All pictures sourced from Aviationweek ( taken at farnborough ) aswell as from boeing .
http://aviationweekfarnborough.typepad.com/aviation_week_at_farnboro/2006/07/jkljl.html
By: Bmused55 - 14th August 2006 at 02:47
At the end of the day a charter airline such as First Choice Airways isnt going to install the ultra-plush iPod-esque interiors as shown in the photos, they’re not going to generate the max cash from a fleet of 6 a/c. As with the recently revised B767 interiors, its all about trying to get the balance right.
People said that about the 777 signature cabin offered for other Boeing models… they were wrong 😉
Yes, some features won’t feature on every 787, but things like the bins, wall and cealing panels, toilets etc will be fairly standard features… and those are what are giving the 787 that new age look.
By: Lt Kije - 14th August 2006 at 01:55
At the end of the day a charter airline such as First Choice Airways isnt going to install the ultra-plush iPod-esque interiors as shown in the photos, they’re not going to generate the max cash from a fleet of 6 a/c. As with the recently revised B767 interiors, its all about trying to get the balance right.
By: bring_it_on - 13th August 2006 at 17:59
Looks plastic-y,
Yup unless you’re flying A custom gulfstream or a dassault you aint gonna get much walnut finish around 😉 both A and B use durable and best value for money for their interiors have no doubts about it !! Considering how little metal is going on this plane it might just be the most plasticy commercial airliner ever to go into service 😮 !! that is until the A-350 comes around 😀 ..Let the plastic wars begin 😀 😀
I seriously recomend taking the interactive tour of the jet on the newairplanes website ..gives a much better prespective of ergonomics and space inside then any pictures.
By: symon - 13th August 2006 at 14:34
Very impressive interactive tour
By: bring_it_on - 13th August 2006 at 12:48
HERE ARE SOME MORE PICS —





BOEING updated their site on the 787 dreamliner and it looks very very good and interactive – you can check it out and take a virtual tour of the 787 here
By: bring_it_on - 31st July 2006 at 18:01
Airlines actually are making there choices regarding seating . Although boeing doesnt choose the seat that goes into the plane they do get a order from the Airliner as they have to integrate it . So far for the 787-8 and 787-9 there are 2/3’s of the airlines choosing 9 abreast with the rest choosing 8 abreast . In the future ofcourse if an airline wants they can cram in a 10 seat but the size of indivigual seat would be drastically lower therefore I dont see this as being a feasable offer – ofcourse if an airline wants the extra seats on a 787-8 they can then not buy the -8 but go for either the A350-8 (270) or go in for the 787-9 which seats 280 passengers.
FOR THOSE LIKE ME WHO WERE SURPRISED AT THE ENTIRE 3-3-3 ARANGEMENT HERE IS BOEING’S EXPLAINATION.

So a big part of our efforts focused on actually shaping the airplane in a way that would enhance the cabin interior. And we chose to go with what is often referred to as a “double-bubble” fuselage.
What that means is a double circle. It allows us to have the lower section of the airplane shaped the right size for cargo, and allows us to situate the shape of the upper section so that the widest part of the passenger cabin is higher up from the floor. This allows for a straighter sidewall, more comfort around the window seats, and a wider cabin overall.
In the image above, you can see that the cross section we chose for the Dreamliner allows us to provide a 9-abreast configuration – with the same kind of comfort levels you find in economy class in today’s airplanes such as in the 747 and the A330/A340. Basically, the very same triple seats used in the 747 could be used in a 9-abreast configuration in the 787.
But the beauty of the 787 is the built-in flexibility for airlines for the different kinds of markets they serve. Our customers will have the option in the Dreamliner of providing a premium economy arrangement at 8-abreast. This allows for the largest seat available – bigger than you’d find today in economy – a 19 inch seat bottom.
By: chornedsnorkack - 31st July 2006 at 12:07
Aren’t we saying the same thing, basically?
I think we are not.
Sure, you can cram 10 seats in there.
I am not quite sure.
But airlines seem to have realized a little bit of comfort can go a long way, lately one can’t really see 10 abreast on many planes.
Lately, one can. B747 is still 10 abreast as standard. Originally, B747 entered service with 9 abreast, 3-4-2. Unfortunately, I haven´t heard of that coming back.
Even 777, fair deal wider, rarely has 10 abreast seating. as for md11 and 787 comparison, difference is almost surely less than 28 cm, as both the curvature of the fuselage is different and 787’s walls are thinner.
Maybe. The question is, how cramped can you get? Tristar is 5 cm narrower than MD-11, and sometimes had 10 abreast… but A330 is already cramped at 9 abreast.
By: totoro - 31st July 2006 at 12:01
Aren’t we saying the same thing, basically? Sure, you can cram 10 seats in there. But airlines seem to have realized a little bit of comfort can go a long way, lately one can’t really see 10 abreast on many planes. Even 777, fair deal wider, rarely has 10 abreast seating. as for md11 and 787 comparison, difference is almost surely less than 28 cm, as both the curvature of the fuselage is different and 787’s walls are thinner.
By: chornedsnorkack - 31st July 2006 at 11:26
Does that mean that every airline when it makes an order has to say which arrangement it’s gonna use? I doubt that. Also, i believe 10 abreast, IF used, would be used on 787-3s, not on anything beyond a short haul trip. Would 18″ seats even fit in 10 abreast arrangement? I’d think they’d have to use narrow seats, 17″ or something like that. (keep in mind there’s 2 inch armrest between two seats, as well as two aisles and like a half a foot wasted on each side of the cabin due to fuselage wall and the curvature)
Look at the Boeing detailed technical specifications for MD-11 on the Boeing website.
There you can find the high-density, 10 abreast picture. It is not just an imagination – you can see, and feel, it in real life, on Finnair.
The seatback width is 16,5 inches (41,9 cm). So is the aisle width.
Boeing 787 is narrower than MD-11: the outside fuselage width is 574 cm for 787, 602 cm on MD-11. Can you shrink those 28 cm and still sit 10 abreast?
By: totoro - 31st July 2006 at 10:41
Does that mean that every airline when it makes an order has to say which arrangement it’s gonna use? I doubt that. Also, i believe 10 abreast, IF used, would be used on 787-3s, not on anything beyond a short haul trip. Would 18″ seats even fit in 10 abreast arrangement? I’d think they’d have to use narrow seats, 17″ or something like that. (keep in mind there’s 2 inch armrest between two seats, as well as two aisles and like a half a foot wasted on each side of the cabin due to fuselage wall and the curvature)
By: bring_it_on - 31st July 2006 at 08:04
9 abreast is most likely the most airlines are going to go for and no one till date has ordered 10 abreast , but you never know 😉
By: chornedsnorkack - 31st July 2006 at 08:01
9 seats…
The old B747 had 3-4-2 seating. Asymmetric – but no middle-middle seats. It could be used on Tristar and DC-10 as well… I think KLM and Finair still have it on their MD-11s.
At least I hope for no 10 abreast on 787. Tristar did have 10 abreast, but it was 597 cm wide – 787 is just 574 cm. But therefore 9 abreast on 787 is more cramped than 9 abreast on Tristar.
By: bring_it_on - 30th July 2006 at 20:52
Very impressive interiors all the same, but which airlines actually install them?
I dont understand. Other then the Airbus-BMW ceiling everything else is pretty much standard. The seating is optional on both the aircraft and the Airlines can choose which type of seat they want . other then that the lightings , fittings , etc etc are all standard and provided for by B or A. regarding the bedding etc etc on the 787 so far no one has gone in for it and I seriously doubt that anyone would although we might see some sort of bedding on the A380 in the future . I for one wont want to shell out big bucks just to sleep flat (then again a rich man on a LAX , tokyo flight might want to shell them out)
By: A330-300 - 30th July 2006 at 19:59
Very impressive interiors all the same, but which airlines actually install them?
I understand were your coming from but my opinion is mine and yours is yours
The wings aren’t dodgy at all. Even some 777s and 767s have those type of wings presently.
By: Oasis747 - 30th July 2006 at 19:00
(Your opinion – totally disagree personally)
I understand were your coming from but my opinion is mine and yours is yours
By: bring_it_on - 30th July 2006 at 18:49
Composites are tougher and more durable then alunimium pound for pound , They are easier to mould into place and can take more $hit . They have been used on high performing aircraft and spacecrafts alike and have been a huge success . Boeing and Airbus both know that the peices will work . Boeing just ran some brutal strength and structural tests on their composite peices and simulated pressures far greater then what would be put on a wing or a peice of composite over the life of the aircraft . They tore it to bits in testing to see at what pressure it snaps or breaks . And the dreamliner or XWB you’ll be flying on will have to undergo the same (or more) degree of FAA clearences as the aircraft you currently fly on and will most likely be safer to fly then what you fly on today.
By: LBARULES - 30th July 2006 at 18:47
Just because it doesn’t look ‘right’ (Your opinion – totally disagree personally), doesn’t mean it won’t work!
By: Oasis747 - 30th July 2006 at 18:37
No
But there wings in pics seem to be curved up and it doesnt look right
By: LBARULES - 30th July 2006 at 18:26
You don’t trust the wing? What a ridiculous thing to say! Why not? Do you honestly think that companies like Boeing and Airbus would spend billions and billions of pounds developing aircraft that would have ‘dodgy’ wings!?
By: Oasis747 - 30th July 2006 at 18:23
Very posh looking
I proberly wouldnt want to fly the aircraft themselfs as i dont trust that type of wing they have on them. The interiors look like a dream though dont they