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787 News , Progress , Orders..(Merged)

Just thought that after the long and well updated previous thread on the 787 we need a new one considering that it is expected to reach some of its milestones soon , aswell as details on compensation talks , new orders etc should be comming out soon .

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By: Ship 741 - 6th September 2008 at 22:05

It would appear the union has a ton of leverage just now….the schedule appears barely achieveable even with full cooperation.

Then again, one never knows what goes on in the offices of these corporate giants. Perhaps a slowdown they could blame on labor would provide a convenient opportunity to regain institutional control of the program, thus killing two birds with one stone (making labor look like a bad guy while management catches up with what they should have been doing all along). Thus, more outsourcing.

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By: Grey Area - 3rd September 2008 at 06:57

Suprised no one posted about the gear swing a couple of weeks ago.

Potential bad news on the horizon though….it appears the IAM may go on strike, vote tomorrow…

That’s not the only cloud on the B787 horizon.

Note the third paragraph.

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By: Ren Frew - 2nd September 2008 at 21:16

Uh, yeah. Sort of like a Concorde is just a tarted up DC-3 🙂

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Which of those is STILL flying however…? 😀

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By: Ship 741 - 2nd September 2008 at 15:14

Suprised no one posted about the gear swing a couple of weeks ago.

Potential bad news on the horizon though….it appears the IAM may go on strike, vote tomorrow:

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/d8a7e9ae-7885-11dd-acc3-0000779fd18c.html

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By: bring_it_on - 2nd July 2008 at 11:11

From Bloomberg —–>

The worker put wrong fasteners into 11 holes in the midbody fuselage of the fourth of six flight-test planes, damaging a 30- centimeter (11.8-inch) area, the official, who declined to be identified, said by telephone.

”It was repaired with success through the usual procedure, which was a carbon-fiber patch,” the official said. ”The only consequence is a few days’ delay to the delivery of the fuselage,” which was pushed back by Boeing, he said.”

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By: Newforest - 1st July 2008 at 21:34

More info. on the damaged fuselage section of the fourth test aircraft.

http://www.aero-news.net/news/commair.cfm?ContentBlockID=e3ebf613-018e-47f4-a91c-e10b6af5a632&Dynamic=1

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By: Schorsch - 1st July 2008 at 20:00

I don’t know what all the excitment is about..it’s just a tarted up 767

By its basic concept and specification, but not by the applied technology, and especially not by the applied production system. And look, it is not the specification that hurts the B787 (sold close to 1000).

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By: Jennings - 1st July 2008 at 19:18

I don’t know what all the excitment is about..it’s just a tarted up 767

Uh, yeah. Sort of like a Concorde is just a tarted up DC-3 🙂

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By: Oxcart - 1st July 2008 at 19:07

Flight have reported today that the 4th flight test aircraft has been damaged during production-it was repaired over the w/e but its gonna cause a delay they could’ve done without!

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By: steve rowell - 27th June 2008 at 10:32

I don’t know what all the excitment is about..it’s just a tarted up 767

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By: bring_it_on - 23rd June 2008 at 16:59

Boeing has prepared a presentation on the process of Power-on and the engineer and program managers commentary of it ——->

http://poweron.tpninteractive.com/

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By: Schorsch - 21st June 2008 at 11:19

So, finally, about a year after roll-out the machine is working. Let’s see when it flies. If Power-On progressed well, I think we can see the Dreamliner in the air about August to September, or a year later than expected. Good Luck, boys!

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By: bring_it_on - 21st June 2008 at 06:00

Another milestone reached , Finally we see some progress being made . The next big milestone would be the rollout of the factory and begining of taxi tests which should take place by late august – early september .

http://www.flightglobal.com/blogs/flightblogger/LN1-FlightDeck_sm-thumb-476x381.jpg
http://www.flightglobal.com/blogs/flightblogger/LN4-CenterFuse-thumb-476x316.jpg
http://www.flightglobal.com/blogs/flightblogger/LN5-6-AftFuse-thumb-476x316.jpg

From Jon’s Blog —–>

Whats next after power on

http://www.flightglobal.com/blogs/flightblogger/2008/06/after-poweron-whats-next-for-7.html

For those who visit jon’s blog regularly please take some time to wish him a belated happy birthday!!

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By: symon - 20th June 2008 at 18:42

Power: On

EVERETT, Wash., June 20, 2008 — The Boeing Company [NYSE:BA] has completed the Power On sequence for the first 787 Dreamliner, marking the completion of the next major milestone on the path to first flight later this year.

http://www.boeing.com/news/releases/2008/q2/080620b_nr.html

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By: bring_it_on - 12th June 2008 at 13:42

http://www.aerospace-technology.com/projects/dreamliner/images/7E7Dreamliner_8.gif

ya, i do know. But the above contract looks more on the “business line” rather than “smuggled”.

What do you mean??

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By: Bhagira - 12th June 2008 at 12:13

Can u guys give a quick view of how the production of the Dreamliner is structured. I mean who all does what.

Airbus have long been accusing Boeing of unfair practices by giving subsidy. Have that been settled?

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By: Bhagira - 12th June 2008 at 12:11

Below is another European funded project for making next generation engine. Its not because of the cost-effectiveness alone, but more so due to high-end tech in Russian R&D institutions & labs which have been struck due to the chaos of the 90s. West have always made use of Russian technologies by “funded” projects, when the same could not be bought outright.

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By: Bhagira - 12th June 2008 at 12:10

Boeing and other WORLD AVIATION companies have been buying Titanium from Russia for long long time now , even in the Cold war days . Where do you think the Ti for the SR-71 came from.

ya, i do know. But the above contract looks more on the “business line” rather than “smuggled”.

Russian design centers are playing a role in Dreamliner development , its part of an offset package as Boeing sees good sales from russian carriers aswell as partnership with sukhoi to market or provide ASS for their commercial ventures . boeing and airbus are well using CHINESE , RUSSIAN and INDIAN expertise onto new product development as it is good work at better cost then if it was done in the US , Boeing is using it to change the way it makes aircrafts totally concentrating more on the DESIGN and integration aspect of things .

Thats is true, but Westerns companies have only ventured into high-end areas with Russia where they had been lacking. I don’t see Intel & AMD manufacturing chips in Russia, as it would have been more cost-effective even though the chip designers are the Russians. Also, even though EADS cooperate with Russia is space a lot and America uses Russian engines for their rockets, they don’t cooperate with Russia in satellite development. Its because, Russia lags in miniatureised components.

The reason for it is that Russia lacks in manufacturing technology and they doing catching up.

I believe russian designers also designed majority of the DREAMLIFTER .

what about the Winglet on Boeing’s B737-NG series? such large winglets in the narrow body class came on the Tu-204.

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By: bring_it_on - 12th June 2008 at 03:23

787 POWER ON TESTING BEGINS

WICHITA, KS — Power-on testing for Dreamliner One has commenced in Everett, WA.

Boeing has confirmed the testing has begun and has issued this statement:

“We’re pleased the process has begun, and we are confident we’ll meet the milestone in June.”

Power-on testing of all the 787’s systems is expected to take several weeks.

Program sources tell FlightBlogger that 787 Program General Manager and VP Pat Shanahan was on hand for todays tests.

UPDATE: Indications of commencement of power-on testing were running rampant this week in Everett with the arrival of lit beacon signs reading “When illuminated, production test in progress.”

In addition, earlier today Boeing erected a perimeter around Dreamliner One with signs reading, “Warning – Power On Testing – Authorized Personnel Only – No Entrance – No Exceptions”.

According to several program sources, there are flat panel TV monitors set up on the factory floor showing a live video feed of the cockpit instruments.

Boeing, taking all appropriate precautions for their early power-on tests, had the facility fire department on hand.

This is a developing story and will be updated as details become available.

http://www.flightglobal.com/blogs/flightblogger/2008/06/breaking-exclusive-787-poweron.html

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By: bring_it_on - 7th June 2008 at 14:12

Boeing and other WORLD AVIATION companies have been buying Titanium from Russia for long long time now , even in the Cold war days . Where do you think the Ti for the SR-71 came from.

Russian design centers are playing a role in Dreamliner development , its part of an offset package as Boeing sees good sales from russian carriers aswell as partnership with sukhoi to market or provide ASS for their commercial ventures . boeing and airbus are well using CHINESE , RUSSIAN and INDIAN expertise onto new product development as it is good work at better cost then if it was done in the US , Boeing is using it to change the way it makes aircrafts totally concentrating more on the DESIGN and integration aspect of things .

I believe russian designers also designed majority of the DREAMLIFTER .

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