March 26, 2007 at 8:59 pm
Here is some pictures of Don-2N and A-135 site.
Don-2N








A-135








By: Nicolas10 - 30th March 2007 at 00:55
I bet you could get a form of cancer or two just walking less than 50km in front of those buildings.
Nic
By: pesho - 29th March 2007 at 08:46
Thanks for the link.I lost it after hard disk crash last year.
As we are still on the ABM theme,here is pictures of Voronez-DM(wrong spelling?).
While still on construction.

And completed.





I allready posted them before,but i’m sure that they are new for somebody.
By: Austin - 29th March 2007 at 08:03
Thanks Pesho , This is also worth looking at link
By: pesho - 29th March 2007 at 07:54
Pesho Nice Pics , Did you took it ? IS Don-2N still operational ?
Austin i wish i took them.I have a russian friend that regulary update me about any news.
Here is the old thread thas SOC mention:http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/showthread.php?t=65632&highlight=gorgon
There i posted some more pictures and info about Gazelle.
By: SOC - 29th March 2007 at 07:37
Whoops, ignore that 50,000+ number, my conversion factor was off. Lemme recalculate a few things and rethink this one.
By: Austin - 29th March 2007 at 07:27
Most likely it had to do with the necessary acceleration needed for that speed. 8km/sec is around 53,000 miles/hr. No way a missile reaches twice the speed of orbital velocity in five seconds.
Emm the Gazzle is a two stage missile , while the first stage can give it a average speed of 5.5 km/sec , The second stage can give it a terminal velocity of 8 km/sec , The question to ask can you achieve that , Me thinks yes ( I am not trying to say that Gazzle necessarly does it )
Remember , Gazzle is a short leg missile , compared to its long range cousine and considering that they were designed to intercept ICBM , and the gazzle was kind of designed to take on what has leaked from Gorgon , The only way you can achieve it is by taking on the target as high as possible and intercepting as quick as it can be done. Even US has looked into the idea of an interceptor capable of reaching speed
of 8 ~ 10 km/sec
it requires a velocity of 7.8 km/sec to inject a satellite in LEO
SOC , I come back to the same question what makes you feel achieving a speed of 8 km/sec is not possible.
By: sferrin - 29th March 2007 at 04:24
I’d have to try and dig up the old thread, I can’t remember that one. Most likely it had to do with the necessary acceleration needed for that speed. 8km/sec is around 53,000 miles/hr. No way a missile reaches twice the speed of orbital velocity in five seconds.
Would need a ridiculously high fuel-fraction and be fueled with unobtainium.
By: SOC - 29th March 2007 at 03:48
SOC , what is the basis for you to conclude that it is impossible to have an Interceptor with a terminal velocity of 8 km/sec
I’d have to try and dig up the old thread, I can’t remember that one. Most likely it had to do with the necessary acceleration needed for that speed. 8km/sec is around 53,000 miles/hr. No way a missile reaches twice the speed of orbital velocity in five seconds.
By: Austin - 29th March 2007 at 03:33
Austin. In another discussion with SOC, talking about Spec Imps and other things he concluded that it is impossible to reach such a terminal speed with that savage acceleration.
SOC , what is the basis for you to conclude that it is impossible to have an Interceptor with a terminal velocity of 8 km/sec
By: Rodolfo - 28th March 2007 at 19:37
In knew the article, Austin. In another discussion with SOC, talking about Spec Imps and other things he concluded that it is impossible to reach such a terminal speed with that savage acceleration. 4 km/s and 200 g are mores logical values. Pretty impressive but even with this, unable to reach 30 km in 5 sec. May be it was an exaggeration of the journalist. Nevertheless, it seems that Gazelles is an awesome beast.
By: Austin - 28th March 2007 at 17:03
ok guys enough 😮 I’m seeing these pics for first time 😮 the first couple of pics literally looks like James Bond movie :diablo: 😀 😀 ; besides the scenic beauty just lacks the dark haired, grey eyed dolls :diablo: 😉
ok these pics are amazing!
Oh yeah Joey , you wish about those dark haired , grey eyed dolls 😉
By: Austin - 28th March 2007 at 16:55
Rodolfo , There is one interesting fact I came with regards to the Gazzle System , Check this link
From the link this point is very interesting
Detonation point was located at 39 km altitude and the missiles reached this point in a 5 s flight.
The Max Range of the Solid Fuel Gazzle is about 100 Km , The interception say took place at 39 km and it travelled a distance in just 5 sec , which roughly translates to nearly 8 km/Sec .
I am not sure of any interceptor missile can travel that fast , do you have any hard and accurate data on Gazzle specially with regards to its speed it travels to intercept.
The Big missile from S-400 just seems the logical succesor to the Gorgon system .
By: Rodolfo - 28th March 2007 at 14:37
resetiawan: A-135 is the anti-missile system of Moscow. Don-2NP is the battle-management radar of the system.
By: Rodolfo - 28th March 2007 at 14:08
Austin.
Yes, supposedly, “Gorgons” have been retired and “Gazelles” have been refitted with a new software that allow interceptions with conventional warheads. A months ago a RIA Novosty article claimed that Don-2NP will work as centrepiece of a new “air-space defence architecture” and that will “collaborate” with S-400 to down warheads in the terminal phase (I will search for it). So, we can assume that “conventional Gazelles” are working as a transition bridge to this “new architecture”.
By: rsetiawan - 28th March 2007 at 13:35
tough question *cough* what is DOn 2 and A135 ?:(
call me stupid but please answer 😮
By: Austin - 28th March 2007 at 09:10
Rodolfo are you aware why the Russians deactivated all the long range Gorgon Missile from service , Its just that in 1995 the whole ABM system went into combat rediness, Strange they deactivated one of the key interceptor
By: Austin - 28th March 2007 at 07:20
As far as the open literature claims, Don-2NP is fully operational.
Thanks , Yes indeed , It went operational in 1995
By: joey - 27th March 2007 at 21:26
ok guys enough 😮 I’m seeing these pics for first time 😮 the first couple of pics literally looks like James Bond movie :diablo: 😀 😀 ; besides the scenic beauty just lacks the dark haired, grey eyed dolls :diablo: 😉
ok these pics are amazing!
By: Rodolfo - 27th March 2007 at 19:26
As far as the open literature claims, Don-2NP is fully operational.
By: Austin - 27th March 2007 at 05:23
Pesho Nice Pics , Did you took it ? IS Don-2N still operational ?