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A-36 tour debut

The Collings A-36 made its tour debut over the weekend. While it’s not a full time addition to the Wings of Freedom tour, it will be visiting us while we are in the area. It’s a gorgeous machine.

Jim

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By: Bruce - 12th September 2012 at 08:59

Thanks Jim,

Lets just say that was how it was reported, and my recollection was from 20 odd years ago, possibly from the pages of Warbirds Worldwide.

I’m a bit more cynical when it comes to provenance; there have been very few ‘new’ discoveries in the UK and the USA in many years. Someone usually knows! That said, there is a tipping point when a collection of original parts can become an airframe, and I have no issue with that!!

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By: Jim_Harley - 12th September 2012 at 04:48

When I joined Collings in 2003 the A-36 was in the jig as 4 longerons and had a twisted horizontal…it was a monumental ground up restoration. The photo below was from 2005 after 2 years of steady work. There were no parts firewall forward, or from the tail production break aft.

As far as the Bee is concerned it has always been around despite a lack of documentation, I read the same book as a kid. There are many airframes that exist without “our” knowledge…or “expert” knowledge.

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By: David Burke - 11th September 2012 at 21:38

The A-36 was somewhat more than remnants ! A read of the late Paul Coggan’s ‘Mustang Survivors’ has a picture of the A-36 as a structurally intact fuselage at Oakland in 1982. A comment notes that the cowlings had been sold to Moon Spillers for use in his P-51A.
Interestingly there is no note of the P-51C ‘Boise Bee’ in the survivors listing back then.

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By: Jim_Harley - 11th September 2012 at 20:33

There was never any intention to convert the A-36 to a B/C model. The Paul’s bought the B/C model airframe and the remnants of the A-36. There were parts from the A-36 that could be used on the B/C model restoration. This airframe is airworthy as well, painted as Duane Beeson’s “Boise Bee”.

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By: David Burke - 11th September 2012 at 19:39

Because when it was contemplated ‘B’ Mustangs were incredibly scarce and the only machine really around was Pete Regina’s example. The fighter Mustang was perceived to have a higher value than the A-36 which were viewed as an ‘oddball’ machine.

Luckily that conversion didnt happen.

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By: BSG-75 - 11th September 2012 at 19:12

“converted to a P51B”……:eek:

Ok, when I own a Mustang I can do what I want….. but why on earth would you do that?! I never understood the high back/low back changes people make in Spitfires (and yes, when I own a Spitfire I can also do what I like…) but an A-36 is a rare beauty in itself…… why on earth make it into something its not, and never will be !?

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By: Bruce - 11th September 2012 at 18:33

Ah – OK, this is the one that was going to be converted to a P51B, but fortunately wasnt!

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By: Stepwilk - 11th September 2012 at 18:29

Some may wonder about the obviously hand-painted part of the dive brake in photo #5. Having recently written about this airplane, I should pass on that when I talked to Rob Collings about it, he pointed out that they made great efforts to be entirely authentic in its color scheme: though he said it pained the restorers to have to do it, they hand-painted with a brush those parts of the airplane that would have been painted that way by techs in the field, like the red surround around the stars-and-bars, the large J on the fuselage and other items including, obviously, the left-wing dive brake where the national insignia impinged upon it.

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By: Jim_Harley - 11th September 2012 at 18:11

I’m not sure about its early history but it was owned by Sid Smith in the 60’s and 70’s. It was purchased, along with a P-51C by John Paul during the late 70’s (somewhere in that time frame) from Jack Hardwick. The Collings Foundation aquired the airframe in the 80’s without a wing or cowlings. The restoration has been ongoing for around 10 years. It’s serial #42-83738, the wing was built up at Teeters shop and the rest was built up by American Aero in New Smyrna Beach. The airframe was fitted with a D model belly scoop at some point…in all it was a monumental project.

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By: Bruce - 11th September 2012 at 16:19

Nice – remind me; what’s the history on this one?

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