A Buchon for Daz

Yes.off course,I guess that makes 6 in total…..surely a record that can not be broken.

@ Kurfürst: Make that 8. Between RR Kestrel and DB 600 series they have been fitted with Jumo 210´s, and the Hispano Aviacion built had 2 quite different Hispano-Suiza engines. First the Spanish built HS 12Z-89, and due to bad performance they skipped them and later used the French built HS 12Z-17. If you count them as different ones, that makes 8 different engines. 🙂

Michael

Maybe this will help ….

http://www.homebuiltairplanes.com/forums/warbirds-warbird-replicas/3195-messerschmitt-bf-109-a-7.html

Not the one I was thinking of, but very nice anyway! 🙂

It was this one I was thinking of:

http://youtu.be/23Shq35invU

Not forgetting the Hispano-Suiza engine fitted to the Spanish aircraft initially…

Yes.off course,I guess that makes 6 in total…..surely a record that can not be broken.

Nice!

Not completely unrelated, but I did see a video of a replica Bf109 prototype a while back. Wonder if I can find it again….

Maybe this will help ….

http://www.homebuiltairplanes.com/forums/warbirds-warbird-replicas/3195-messerschmitt-bf-109-a-7.html

Not forgetting the Hispano-Suiza engine fitted to the Spanish aircraft initially…

BF109 V1 to HA 1112 M4L

Quoted from “Arco Buchon” thread

For Daz:

Maybe even better than a Buchon?

Bf 109 V 1, First flight 28.March 1935, RR Kestrel V

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Would be an interesting model too, I´d think….

Michael

It is interesting to compare the profiles of the first to the last, very similar ,being both fitted with upright engines. Let,s see…….RR Kestrel, DB601,DB605,Jumo 211,RR Merlin.That is five different engines fitted to the same airframe.Built in Germany,Poland, Chechoslovakia and Spain from 1935 to 1959 with around 35,000 constructed,Does anything else match this record?

Nice!

Not completely unrelated, but I did see a video of a replica Bf109 prototype a while back. Wonder if I can find it again….

No. They just continued the family line they started with the Kestrel. Those German Jumo´s and DB´s were just used as there were no RR´s available, because of the great demand for Merlins needed for Hurricanes and another plane, wait…. Spit…something. 😀

Michael

Quoted from “Arco Buchon” thread

Originally Posted by Flanker_man
A semi-interesting quiz question I sometimes pose at our model club……

“Which aircraft made its first flight on the power of a Rolls Royce Kestrel and its last flight on the power of a Rolls Royce Merlin”?

OK – ‘last flight’ is stretching it a bit……… but most people don’t even think of a foreign design – and are surprised by the answer….. Messerschmitt 109.

Ken

For Daz:

Maybe even better than a Buchon?

Bf 109 V 1, First flight 28.March 1935, RR Kestrel V

(Copyright: taringa.net)

(Copyright: homepagemodules.com)

Would be an interesting model too, I´d think….

Michael

All this talk of Buchons is making me want to watch Piece of Cake and A Perfect Hero again.

Mind you, not seen Memphis Belle for a while, either.

And yes, I do own Eagles Over London, too…. 😮

Didn’t they “cheat” when they stuffed a Merlin into the Me109 airframe to create the Buchon? 🙂

No. They just continued the family line they started with the Kestrel. Those German Jumo´s and DB´s were just used as there were no RR´s available, because of the great demand for Merlins needed for Hurricanes and another plane, wait…. Spit…something. 😀

Michael

Quoted from “Arco Buchon” thread

A semi-interesting quiz question I sometimes pose at our model club……

“Which aircraft made its first flight on the power of a Rolls Royce Kestrel and its last flight on the power of a Rolls Royce Merlin”?

OK – ‘last flight’ is stretching it a bit……… but most people don’t even think of a foreign design – and are surprised by the answer….. Messerschmitt 109.

Ken

Didn’t they “cheat” when they stuffed a Merlin into the Me109 airframe to create the Buchon? 🙂

That’s cheating – that’s an actual Bf109F, not a Buchon… 😉

Swastika?

Heaven forbid a national museum that has managed to own it for all these years without resorting to swastika’s !

National museum? Swastika? 🙂

Heaven forbid a national museum that has managed to own it for all these years without resorting to swastika’s !

“X” Marks The Spot

Spanish Buchon:

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You never know one day some maverick might even take a Spitfire -paint it gloss red and try to get air display bookings with it!

….or even paint it in German markings and put in a DB 605 …. :diablo::D:cool:

Michael

Blue Max – Dropping 1 million on a Buchon as a money making scheme from air display revenues is never going to work in most people’s books!

However if the day ever came that I could afford one – it would be fun to turn up to an air display in my ‘Luftwaffe Me109’ only for parents to have to explain to their kids that someone had vandalised a Luftwaffe icon – put a Merlin on the front and four bladed prop and painted it in the obscure markings of the Spanish Air Force !!

You never know one day some maverick might even take a Spitfire -paint it gloss red and try to get air display bookings with it!

Not at all, but the film did play a significant role in bringing the Buchon into the open. Far more people would recognise the “movie Messerschmitt” than they would a “Hispano Ha.1112”.

As for MH434, well… who wouldn’t recognise a Spitfire when they saw one?

You mean that the use of an aircraft for a few weeks in a film is more significant than its operational service ?

Does that mean that MH434’s film use has been more significant than its wartime role?

Or, you could argue, more significant. If it hadn’t been for the film, we probably wouldn’t have nearly so many Buchons still kicking around, in Spanish markings or otherwise…