A Career in Aviation?

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I didn’t know you were an Aere. Are you in your third year? 🙂 Nice to see a comrade once in a while.

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[updated:LAST EDITED ON 29-10-02 AT 10:10 AM (GMT)]Why dont you try have a look at www.Airlinecareer.com There is a lot of good info on there and a few good links.Might help ?

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check in for a non U.K airline at LHR T2

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What exactly do you do 777crazy?

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believe you mean youve gotta be tough to work in aviation, unsociable hours delays on flights means getting home late, you will get used to it . i did eventually

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T5 e-mail me or add me on messenger n i’ll c what i can do

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[updated:LAST EDITED ON 27-10-02 AT 11:35 PM (GMT)]Lufthansa does them, although I think they require German language skills.

I’ll bet most airlines do… there are usually some good ads in Flight, I’d say keep looking…

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EGNM – you say most airlines do them. By this, I am assuming you mean these sponsored schemes. I’m curious as to what airlines you know of that I don’t because I wasn’t aware that many actually offered such a scheme to wannabe pilots.

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Most airlines do then – i’ve got shite loads bak – u’ve just got to push and push – also a hint – it sounds bad to say, but there are thousends looking for each position on a sponsership course so i’ve learnt to keep my data to myself cos u r only creating more competition 4 yourself if u reveil all!!

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[updated:LAST EDITED ON 27-10-02 AT 12:54 PM (GMT)]Unfortunately, the Britannia Airways sponsored scheme has now closed. The British Airways one is still going and I’ve posted the links below.

British Airways Jobs Wesbite
http://www.britishairwaysjobs.com/

British Airways Sponsored Pilots Training Scheme
http://www.britishairwaysjobs.com/cc/pilots/spts/index.jsp

British Airways Direct Entry Pilot Scheme
http://www.britishairwaysjobs.com/cc/pilots/deps/index.jsp

Sponsored scheme is those with very little or no experience at all. The link gives detailed information about qualifications, what they want from you, what they can offer you etc.

Direct entry is those who hold a CPL and want to fly for the airline. You can apply up until the age of 49.

Britannia Airways

Britannia have only got vacancies for First Officers who can fly the 757/767. This requires previous experience and closed on the 25th October.

Also wanted to ask, most say they want two A levels preferably Maths and Physics, but what grades do they want? I got a B in Maths, but only a D in physics, do I not stand a chance?

If you really want such a job, you may want to consider re-doing subjects at college. A B at mathematics surely has to be fine but a D they probably won’t accept – most of their accepted grades have to be at least a C. But I would suggest you get in touch with BA using the address I provided in the last post I made.

Hope this helps.. 😛

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Hey T5 – Where do you find out about these schemes?

I was told to check magazines (by a few airlines I wrote to) such as Flight International for adverts on when these were starting, been buying for a while and not seen anything at all!

Also wanted to ask, most say they want two A levels preferably Maths and Physics, but what grades do they want? I got a B in Maths, but only a D in physics, do I not stand a chance?

I’ve got a PPL and have passed a class 1 so there are two good points.

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Eyesight requirements for airline pilots are very relaxed when compared to military pilots. Contact lenses are fine as are glasses unless you require bottle bottoms!
AndrewM – I don’t really know any more about the BA process than what I’ve said already although I would think it would be the most suitable sponsorship for you due to your choice of academic study. Consider every sponsorship though as the odds for success are slim so you must maximise your chances. (By the way I am still trying to get info for you on the matter we discussed but am so far coming up against a brick wall. I’ll keep trying)

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British Airways had the “Sponsored Pilot Training Scheme” going about two months ago. It’s certainly tough going as you need to be aged between age 18 and 26 (although you can be 27 when you start training with them).

You need good grades at GCSE Science, English and Maths (So.. C and above) and also 2 A Levels in core academic subjects – English Language, Mathematics or one of the sciences. If you don’t want to do A Levels, they will accept a BA Honours Degree at a Grade 2:2 or above which as I understand is not too hard to achieve(!)

It works by them training you from nothing with no flying skills right up to a commercial pilot. They pay for it all and “if” they offer a job with the airline to you, they request that you pay some or all of it back over a 5 year period. If you accept a job and then leave before the five years is up – you’ve got to pay for it somehow. This in itself is quite a commitment.

If you do your CPL elsewhere i.e. with a flying school BA will accept you up to the ripe old age of 49 which is not too bad.

When I checked a couple of months back at what schemes were available, I was surprised to see that Britannia Airways (UK Charter Airline) also had one going. Being a much smaller airline, they were only able to accept 6 candidates to send to a flying school in Spain, also used by BA and Air 2000 as far as I know.

I actually wrote to British Airways during the Summer and on 4th July, received an 8 page booklet about the scheme they offer, the one for those with no flying experience at all. This is the address in which to write to if you would like one as well. The booklet is called “Trainee Pilots Scheme”:

British Airways Recruitment
The Rivers
Cranebank (S571)
PO Box 59
Heathrow Airport
Middlesex
TW6 2SL

Their telephone number is 0870 60 80 747

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“These characteristics result in clinically significant impairment
in social, occupational, or other important areas of
functioning” – surely there can’t be aircrews with social and occupational impairments flying aircraft in the skies above us!?!

I don’t suppose anyone is a Doctor or knows of a Doctor which could should alittle more light on the situation, I am now quite intrigued with this “lifelong” condition that aircrews can supposedly fly with.

LGKR

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Could someone tell me if you are allowed to have contact lenses or glasses for a Class A medical? I have -3.50 and -3.75, does this mean I wont pass.
Thanks,
Mark

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here is a guide to Aspergers syndrome

What is Asperger’s Syndrome?
Asperger’s Syndrome, also known as Asperger’s Disorder or Autistic Psychopathy, is a Pervasive Developmental Disorder (PDD) characterized by severe and sustained impairment in social interaction, development of restricted and repetitive patterns of behavior, interests, and activities. These characteristics result in clinically significant impairment in social, occupational, or other important areas of functioning.

In contrast to Autistic disorder (Autism), there are no clinically significant delays in language or cognition or self help skills or in adaptive behavior, other than social interaction.

Prevalence is limited but it appears to be more common in males. Onset is later than what is seen in Autism, or at least recognized later. A large number of children are diagnosed between the ages of 5 and 9. Motor delays, clumsiness, social interaction problems, and idiosyncratic behaviors are reported. Adults with Asperger’s have trouble with empathy and modulation of social interaction – the disorder follows a continuous course and is usually lifelong.

Aspergers is not easily recognizable – in fact, many children are misdiagnosed with other neurological disorders such as Tourette’s Syndrome or Autism. More frequently, children are misdiagnosed with Attention Deficit (and Hyperactivity) Disorders (ADD & ADHD), Oppositional Defiant Disorder (ODD), or Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder (OCD).

Such mistakes in diagnosis lead to a delay in treatment of the disorder, though many pharmaceuticals and natural remedies are used to treat multiple neurological and pervasive developmental disorders. Remedies used today range from St. John’s Wort tea to drugs such as Haldol and Ritalin. Treatments vary to a great degree with the individual patient – no single medication or remedy works for everyone – and AS cannot be completely cured.

Because it is so new and so difficult to diagnose, our society is ill-equipped to deal with the special educational needs of children afflicted with Asperger’s.

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I already have lost 50% of it and I am told it shouldnt affect my chances of becoming a pilot due tp the fact that it was the lowest level of it you can get to start with and due to the fact I is still getting less and less.

CAA already asked a guy my dad was on a course with and he said he didnt think that due to me having such a low level it would stop me getting a Class A Medical.

ALl i wanted to know was if BA did operate this scheme i think i red about in a SBAC leaflet!! Enough of my medical history!!

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A CAA approved doctor will ask for quite an in depth medical history which would certainly involve more questioning about this syndrome. I would be inclined to phone the CAA medical division for further advice before committing any money towards flying training. Is this something that will stay with you for life Andrew?

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Although, should I be starving as an artist, I would love to get into the corporate side of an airline. Love the business of airlines, or even airport management.

Ok, that’s it.

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LGKR,

Those are some of the symptoms but I do not have those list. Everyone with aspergers syndrome has different symptoms