Got these from Axl’s 🙂 .
Doe’s anyone know where the static shot was taken(check out all the other plane’s around the field) :confused: .
Oh, and are there anybit’s of the Brabazon still around at all :confused: .
Not a bad looking aircraft really for it’s day 😎 ,
But I never have liked the engine lay out, It’s the only thing that spoil’s it’s good look’s I reckon anyway :rolleyes: .
Cheer’s all far and wide 😀 , Tally :dev2: Ho! :dev2: Ho! Phil :diablo: .
By: Eric Mc - 10th March 2005 at 08:05
Looks like they were as proud of the new hangar as they were of the plane.
By: old eagle - 9th March 2005 at 22:13
And this is a Brabazon Brochure ……….A5 size
By: Papa Lima - 9th March 2005 at 22:11
OK, 1950 then, when the Blackburn Universal Freighter appeared, WF320.
The Brabazon was there in 1949, 1950 and 1951.
By: old eagle - 9th March 2005 at 22:06
Brabazon
Was it 1949 ?
By: Papa Lima - 9th March 2005 at 22:06
Farnborough 1949 I believe, which also featured a Hermes 4 G-ALDA and a Hermes 5 G-ALEU. Supermarine 510 VV106. Apollo G-AIYN, etc. etc.
The full list is in “40 Years at Farnborough” by John Blake and Mike Hooks.
By: HP81 - 9th March 2005 at 21:58
The aircraft on the far right is certainly a Hermes, it could be a Hermes IV or V.
There were two Hermes built with tail wheels, the first one, which crashed on its maiden flight & the second example, the only Hermes II.
It is true that the Hermes wasn’t a great success but, in Handley Page’s defence, the final product was far more advanced than the original ministry specification had called for. It was only supposed to be an interim airliner & as such was based around the wing & engines of a war time bomber (the Halifax). Just as the Tudor was based on the Lincoln & the Viking on the Wellington/Warwick. None of these aircraft really stood a chance against the ‘clean sheet’ design’s.
By: Eric Mc - 9th March 2005 at 11:30
The first few Hermes built DID have tailwheels and so did all versions of the military derivative, the Hastings.
The Hermes was an ill conceived and poorly executed design. They were pretty much loathed by BOAC who much preferred the Argonaut even though it was based on an American design ten years older. The Hermes is a good example of how the British airliner industry was going wrong (as is the Avro Tudor).
By: HP57 - 9th March 2005 at 11:30
You naughty boy!
Cees
By: Archer - 9th March 2005 at 11:21
Most Hermes’ had nosewheel gear.
Oh dear, looks like I got my Handley-Pages mixed up! 😮
I’ll go and stand in a corner now :p
By: Arm Waver - 9th March 2005 at 09:04
Hold thephones folks…
I think the lower Viscount is the TAY model and the one higher up is indeed a Viscount and not a Vanguard!!! Hangs head in shame…
I also think it is a Hermes – wings don’t look right for Britannia – Not seen many pictures of Hermes especially with wings!!
Hangs head further in shame…
By: Eric Mc - 9th March 2005 at 09:00
Most Hermes’ had nosewheel gear.
The Vanguard first flew in 1959 by which time the Brabazons (the prototype and second example – which never flew) had both been scrapped. I’d say this picture is from a Farnborough Air Show from around the 1950-52 period.
By: jbs - 9th March 2005 at 08:42
East Fortune has the nosegear assembly of the Brabazon, as I found out last year.
See here for a piccy
not sure if this will work if not then go to my Webshots page (link below) and click on the East Fortune (Hanger 2) page
By: Archer - 9th March 2005 at 08:26
I think it’s too early in the 50s for a Vanguard. It looks like there are two Viscounts and possibly the “Britannia” is actually a Handley Page Hermes.
It looks suspiciously like a Vanguard though!
I don’t think the other one is a Hermes, it doesn’t appear to have a tailwheel undercarriage. Britannia seems more likely.
Edit: Looks like a Comet at the top left.
By: Eric Mc - 9th March 2005 at 08:20
I think it’s too early in the 50s for a Vanguard. It looks like there are two Viscounts and possibly the “Britannia” is actually a Handley Page Hermes. I can also see a Short Sturgeon and possibly an early Fairey Gannet or its Blackburn competitor (the YB9?).
That’s definitely the Armstrong Whitworth Apollo, parked rather cheekily directly across from the Air France liveried Viscount.
By: Archer - 9th March 2005 at 08:19
East Fortune has the nosegear assembly of the Brabazon, as I found out last year.
By: Arm Waver - 9th March 2005 at 07:50
Classic British Aviation in the static shot (not to mention the Freighter of course in the flying one)
I can id at least (clockwise from Brabazon)
Meteor, Apollo(?) Universal Freighter, Canberra, Supermarine thingy (type escapes me), Britannia, Vanguard, Varsity and Viscount…
OAW
By: Flanker_man - 9th March 2005 at 07:49
Got these from Axl’s 🙂 .
Oh, and are there anybit’s of the Brabazon still around at all :confused: .
Cheer’s all far and wide 😀 , Tally :dev2: Ho! :dev2: Ho! Phil :diablo: .
One of the Brabazon’s mainwheels is in the Bristol Industrial Museum – although not on public display.
Our model club (Avon Scale Model Society – based in Bristol) built a 1:72 scale model collection of aircraft made by the Bristol Aeroplane Company – from Boxkite to Concorde, including a scratch-built Brabazon.
They are all on display in the museum – and we got to visit the upstairs storage area when we delivered them.
That’s how I got to see the Brabazon mainwheel.
Ken
PS – The museum also has a couple of Centaurus engines – not necessarily from a Brabazon, but the same engines.
By: oag - 9th March 2005 at 05:40
Stormbird262
think you’ll find the static shot is at Farnborough for SBAC show,not sure if anything remains,but would guess unlikely
sadly too young to remember her,but she was beautiful,eh
colin
oxfordshire aviation group
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