A few pics for Saab and Wysiwyg.

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If I remember correctly they operate up to 10000′ (FL100) with passengers on board (due to lack of pressurisation) and occasionally nip up to 12000′ (FL120) when carrying freight if they need to get over the top of weather.

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Batboy,thanks for the information. I know when I fly from LGW-GCI we always fly over the IOW so,yes you must get some interesting flights flying over in the summer.As for the Bournemouth-Bembridge flights,i’ve looked on the Le Cocqs website and there is nothing about it.I’m presuming then that they’ve been suspended.

Also,isn’t the max cruising height for the Shorts 6,000ft?

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Sheds are not pressurised. It would be difficult to pressurise a Shed because of the square section fuselage (reminiscent of the square windowed Comet 1 saga).

Mongu – yes, the Shed is damn ugly BUT it wins phenomenal support from me because of it’s design ergonomics (which I raved about in a previous thread).

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I think so. My ears always used to pop after a flight in the “flying coffin” as it was called in the IOM.

Wysiwyg – one of the few aircraft with less appeal than a 1900D!

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New on the forum and already a question about the “Shed” or “Shoebox” as I know it. Years back I heard that none of the 360’s had presure controle and therefore were forced to fly low, is this correct?

krgds

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Saab, Sorry to be a long time answering – had some shopping to do. We are a bit east to see flights in/out of Bournemouth although I have seen the occasional 737 making its way in. The location we are in does, however, mean that there are lots of flights outward (LHR?) going directly overhead. This was my first summer here (moved back f
rom Spain) and I hope next year to get some interesting photos.
As far as I know, the first Sunday flight between Bournemouth and Bembridge was cancelled due to fog this end, and I don’t know if any more took place.
Regards

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Thanks for letting me know about that Wysiwyg 😉

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Batboy, do you get the Le Cocqs Trislander/Islander flying over from ACI and JER to Bournemouth?Also I am lead to believe Le Cocqs operate the Trislander on a sunday from Bournemouth to Bembridge on pleasure flights.

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[updated:LAST EDITED ON 29-11-02 AT 11:18 PM (GMT)]Hellaid – when the Trislander was built there weren’t any really suitable big piston engines available to make it a twin so they gave it three smaller ones instead. Don’t forget that the three engine Trislander has 18 seats as opposed to the twin engine Islanders 8(?).

SkyCruiser – are they actually going to try operating Twotters again? Also, is the next Shed going to be Jersey based?

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why does a prop plane need 3 propelers i thought that they could get on fine with one on each wing

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[updated:LAST EDITED ON 29-11-02 AT 05:25 PM (GMT)]Batbaby,

SAAB 2000 is correct, all services in and out of Alderney will remain unchanged. It will be the JSY, GCI and possibly the DNR routes which will see a change in aircraft type.

SAAB 2000, don’t forget that the Twin otter will get in to Alderney.

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They could never get rid of the Trislanders on the Alderney route?Its the only commercial aircraft that can fly into there that I know of.

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Skycruiser, if the Trilander fleet is reduced, its going to change my day to day life! I live on the Isle of Wight quite close to the Needles, and I get to see (and hear) lots of those proper little aircraft esp in the summer.

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OK, Latest rumours are that we might be getting another shed and laying off a few tri-landers. The new shed will be for pax or cargo only, so it will not get battered with all the quick change config for the night mail. Currently interviewing for Shed guys,(WYSIWYG tell our friend NE to get a cv in ASAP). Also recuriting for SAAB Captains, I think we need more crew for next year as we are staring the Bristol route. About the ATR, I have heard that by 2004 Aurigny will have ATR,s.

Regards.
SC

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G-OAAS was a 100 series, G-BVMX was a 300 and G-BMLC is a 200. SkyCruiser will know the latest on the Aurigny Shed situation but I reckon they won’t get any more (and didn’t expect to keep this one as long as they did). I reckon the Shed will go, replaced by an ATR 42, then when the Saab leases expire they may consider replacing them with a mix of ATR 42 and 72. The Post Office will actually contribute towards Aurigny replacing the Shed with an ATR to facilitate the carrying of mail.

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[updated:LAST EDITED ON 28-11-02 AT 07:14 PM (GMT)]Right I will give you some details on the Shorts 360.
Aurigny have had three leased Shorts 360 since 1990.G-OAAS was the first, then came G-BVMX and today we have the ugly one which is G-BMLC.

G-OAAS stayed in the fleet for around 9 years I think, however, when it’s contract ended, it was replaced in 1999 by G-BVMX (ex-Gill). The current Shorts is G-BMLC leased from Flying Enteprises of Sweden, entering the fleet early 2001. I’m not sure when the contract for this ends but I suppose it would be the last Shorts to be in the fleet.

Some pictures here:
http://members.lycos.co.uk/Sarnia/index-Aurigny.html

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Ahh – so any idea where the aircraft is then? Could it have been scrapped?

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on G-INFO the infomation displayed is the owners/leasees at the time the a/c wore the reg – now that it say a/c been transferred to sweden also means that this reg has been cancelled and so have the owners

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[updated:LAST EDITED ON 28-11-02 AT 06:34 PM (GMT)]Thanks for the information on the Shorts 360 Saab 2000 and Wysiwyg.

I’ve been doing some research using the G-INFO Aircraft Database and it turns out that the Shorts 360 is no longer with Aurigny (or Oar-re-knee!) or is it…??

The database said it has been transferred to Sweden although the registered owners are:

AURIGNY AVIATION HOLDINGS LTD
GRANDE RUE
ST MARTINS
GUERNSEY
GY8 0DT
UNITED KINGDOM

…Aurigny?

The aircraft was built in 1984 and belong to Air Business. That year it appeared at the Farnborough Air Show. See attached photograph.
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Nice pictures! Those pictures seem quite old as the Trislanders and the Shorts are in the old c/s.
T5, I think the old shorts is with Bahamsair now, although I could be wrong since it left the fleet a rather long time ago now.

Aurigny literally means Alderney in French so it obviously is Alderney Air Services. With the pronunciation, Wysiwyg has it right, however, just to set a myth straight, the airline is not called Joey (as many people have said to me) it is Aurigny Air Services. The Joey was only one Trislander with a smilie face on it.