January 24, 2002 at 7:00 pm
Thought you might like to see this, it looks a bit like a used aircraft lot! It’s actually what was the Colerne Collection before we gave the Station to the Army.
KeithMac
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By: David J Burke - 31st January 2002 at 23:03
RE: A little something for everyone?
The Canberra B(I)8 actually went to the NZ Airforce museum to represent the type which flew in service with them. The Australian’s
used the conventional ‘Bomber’ type canopied Canberra’s.
The Dragonfly was WG725 which was exported about two years ago to the RAN museum at Nowra I believe.
Lastly the Valetta went to the SAS for training and the Hastings died at Catterick. For the record her wings weren’t used on the Halifax – YAM acquired a set from a scrapyard near Chichester
which were in better condition. The set from the Catterick machine are displayed in a Queen Mary trailer.
By: Ant.H - 31st January 2002 at 22:44
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The ‘fighter-nosed’ Canberra at Cosford is actually PR.9 XH171,so it is in fact completely unarmed,as opposed to the Interdictor Canberras with thier bombs and cannon packs.
The aquisition of this machine,and the state of the B(I).8, lead to the disposal of the latter about 15 years ago.
By: coanda - 30th January 2002 at 20:53
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interesting……………there is still a fighter nosed canberra on display outside at cosford-any ideas when they acquired that??
coanda
By: Ant.H - 30th January 2002 at 18:55
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The single seat ‘fighter-nosed’ Canberra was on display at Cosford for sometime-OUTDOORS.It detereorated to such an extent that scrapping was considered,but in the end it became part of an exchange deal with a museum in Australia.It’s been in storage in Oz for about 10 years,although restoration is said to be not too long in starting.
By: coanda - 30th January 2002 at 13:07
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hi!
there is a hastings at cosford and the camouflaged, fighter nose, canberra is at cosford too if memory serves me right.
By: SADSACK - 29th January 2002 at 15:40
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At least all the unique ones survived, I thought there is a Hastings at cosford?
By: stringbag - 28th January 2002 at 20:15
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Sadsack
As mentioned above the Lightning perished, as did the Hastings from memory but not before the wings were saved and sent to the Yorkshire Air Museum for use in their Halifax.
I think one of the Canberras (silver) also survived the break-up of the collection but was scrapped later.
HTH
Mark
By: SADSACK - 28th January 2002 at 19:02
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were all the airframes relocated or did any perish?
By: coanda - 25th January 2002 at 18:57
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well done GZYL!!!!!!
thats the one, I’m sure it was used to test low speed manouverability of delta aircraft.
coanda
By: GZYL - 25th January 2002 at 18:24
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It’s a Handley Page HP.115 I think. It was some kind of test aircraft.
By: coanda - 25th January 2002 at 16:54
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of course it was danish doh!!!!
the delta at the front was a proof of concept design, and isnt as big as it looks- just the camera angle. I THINK its a BAC aircraft- although i cant remember for sure off the top of my head silly really since i’ve seen it about 8 times!! cosford is my local museum. its to test slow speed delta wing shapes if memory serves me right- i dont think barnes wallis designed it.
coanda
By: Ashley - 25th January 2002 at 09:52
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What the delta winged aircraft at the front? It’s not the aircraft Barnes Wallis designed as a potential successor to the Canberra is it? (His design eventually lost out to the TSR.2 🙂 )
By: EHVB - 25th January 2002 at 09:10
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The Catalina was donated by the Danish, not the Dutch. It is still in its original RDAF livery.
Roger S
By: Steve Bond - 25th January 2002 at 08:23
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The Lightning was a T.5 prototype which was donated to Colerne aftre ground instructional use at Honington. When the museum closed it was scrapped.
The helicopter is a Dragonfly HR.3, which was later donated to an air force museum in South America (Venezuela if my memory serves me right).
The Mosquito is TJ138 which is now at Hendon.
By: GrahamOD - 25th January 2002 at 07:29
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Mmmmnnn….when was this photo taken??
Very interesting to note the T-bird Lightning, wasn’t aware that any T.5’s had been ‘set aside’ that early on, anyone know it’s identity? Interesting to see the B24 at the back, is this the example now at Cosford?
Also, what’s the identity of that Mosquito..!!??
By: coanda - 25th January 2002 at 06:18
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[updated:LAST EDITED ON 25-01-02 AT 06:23Â AM (GMT)]ja, the me163 was captured at the end of the war, and can now be seen at RAF Cosford. The dutch made the catalina a gift to the RAf if I remember rihtly, and is still in those colours at RAF cosford. the prone pilot meteor is also at cosford. as for your description of the ‘winjeel’ it is in fact a piston rovost, also now to be found at raf cosford. at least half of the aircraft in the pic were relocated there when a signals regiment moved to colerne. it is an air support signals regiment, and it is not totally army, as ther is a UAS squadron there, and the flying site is kept in good condition.
coanda
ps, I think that the heli is british, but other than that i couldnt tell ya, on further inspection three quarters of that lot are now at cosford. have seen the original pics at colerne, there were some more clearer shots, with the aircraft broken down into smaller groups.
By: Ja Worsley - 25th January 2002 at 03:28
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Four a/c caught my eye
1. The ME-163 in british markings (did England Flight test it)?
2. The RDAF Cat, why is that there?
3. The Helo next to the DC-3, what type is it? and
4. The Plane in front of the Prone Pilot Meteor, is that a Winjeel with a three bladed prop?
Nice pic all the same, looks like the Air Force museum at RAAF Point Cook!
Per Ardua Ad Astra!
By: stringbag - 24th January 2002 at 23:21
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Another notable aircraft in this line-up is the Sea Fury – it is VR930 now of the RNHF based at Yeovilton. Also based there are three of the other aircraft in the picture – the HP.115 (of course) plus the Hawker P.1052 and Supermarine 510 VV106 are with the FAAM.
Mark
By: GZYL - 24th January 2002 at 19:28
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Yeah why not… let’s have a look at it!! My first thought was another cockpit… but I thought no-one would be able to sit that far forward in a Meteor nose!!! Thankyou for clearing that up!
By: keithmac - 24th January 2002 at 19:18
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Hi GZYL. It’s the prone pilot experimental Meteor. It was an attempt to get over the problem of pilots blacking out under G forces by lying them on their stomach and flying the aircraft prone. It was not a success. I have another close up photo of this aircraft which I can scan in and post if it is of interest.
KeithMac.